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I'm talking about the 4090, not the 3090. 4090 is limited by voltage, meaning you get same clocks on the high end air cooled cards as you do on custom water. Unless you're prepared to hardware mod to get extra volts, custom water gets you 0% performance.
Air cooled cards are also 0DB, no pump noise, at idle/low workloads. At 100% 450W load, both the best air cooled and custom water will be audible (unless you have the radiator/pump in another room, Linus Tech Tips style
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Likewise... just wondering if there had been any sort of conflict with the block and any active backplate that may have prevented a flush mount.
What is your plan going forward? If you've got a link to the reddit thread I'd like to read what others say about the pad sizes.
Plan going forward is to do some more testing tonight and then strip the block down and retry. If it doesnt improve I will get in touch with EK and see what they say
Guy on reddit was maxing out at 47C so definitely something wrong with mine. He has his in the same loop as his cpu, my cpu has its own loop.
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I used the online instructions on my ipad while I was doing it and didnt read anything that shipped with the card.
Seems like I am meant to use 0.8mm and 1mm on the gpu side instead of 1mm and 1.5mm that the online instructions say! You would expect the online instructions to be more accurate.
And no idea which pads are 0.8mm and 1mm as they arent marked and difficult to tell from looking.
GRRRRRRRRRRR
EDIt Convinced a never saw a separate sheet of paper about the change in pad thicknesses. Will double check.
Guy on reddit was maxing out at 47C so definitely something wrong with mine. He has his in the same loop as his cpu, my cpu has its own loop.
Got the
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Though I have just seen this!!!!!!!
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I used the online instructions on my ipad while I was doing it and didnt read anything that shipped with the card.
Seems like I am meant to use 0.8mm and 1mm on the gpu side instead of 1mm and 1.5mm that the online instructions say! You would expect the online instructions to be more accurate.
And no idea which pads are 0.8mm and 1mm as they arent marked and difficult to tell from looking.
GRRRRRRRRRRR
EDIt Convinced a never saw a separate sheet of paper about the change in pad thicknesses. Will double check.
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Water cooling will always be better for noise, temps if done well. If you have top end kit that you always water cool then you will every time going forward with upgrades/new builds there's no reason not to.I'm talking about the 4090, not the 3090. 4090 is limited by voltage, meaning you get same clocks on the high end air cooled cards as you do on custom water. Unless you're prepared to hardware mod to get extra volts, custom water gets you 0% performance.
Air cooled cards are also 0DB, no pump noise, at idle/low workloads. At 100% 450W load, both the best air cooled and custom water will be audible (unless you have the radiator/pump in another room, Linus Tech Tips style
You can argue its not worth spend etc but that can be applied to 13900K and 4090 in general.
450W is nothing for certain water cooling setups depends how far you wanna go with radiators.
D5 is silent unless its running pretty much flat out, which there is no need unless have massive restrictive loop, even then I would run 2x at slower speed and maintain silence.
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Just had the emails through confirming my order has gone through stage 3 and 4 and is now despatched for delivery tomorrow. Also got a DPD tracking number
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Ok just to clarify again a asus thor 1200 watt can manage a 4090 comfortably.Otherwise I am on a waiting list for a 1600watt.
Also is the 1200 watt future proof for a ti or titan?
Also is the 1200 watt future proof for a ti or titan?
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Just had the same!Just had the emails through confirming my order has gone through stage 3 and 4 and is now despatched for delivery tomorrow. Also got a DPD tracking number
Yes but back when they were initially launched and even then they only lasted about 12hrs i think. If they've been available since, it has been fleeting.
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Hi my friends again. I have an question. Using 12900K and DDR4 ( 3600mhz ) and rtx 4090 it will be serious bottleneck on 1440P or card will be utilized good enough?
imo that psu is enough, nvidia say 850W is enough for the FE, some of the AIB's recommend 1000W. will 1200W be enough for a TI or Titan? Probably, but who knows for sure.
imo a 12900K will not much, if any, bottleneck a 4090 at 1440P.
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Oki thanks :*
I’ve had to change my case and that around as last night one of the cats started trying to investigate.
I think I’m going to try and get a FE and then sell my AIRO on MM, I think with the FE I can fit the glass panel on. From the sounds of things it’s going to be a 2-3 week wait for the purchase option of the cable mod and then 4-6 weeks for delivery, I don’t want to wait that long
I think I’m going to try and get a FE and then sell my AIRO on MM, I think with the FE I can fit the glass panel on. From the sounds of things it’s going to be a 2-3 week wait for the purchase option of the cable mod and then 4-6 weeks for delivery, I don’t want to wait that long
Ah yeah that would be why its not making contact then , hurry up and fix it and let us all know it works perfectly as I want to put an order in eith EK for the FE I picked up yesterdayPlan going forward is to do some more testing tonight and then strip the block down and retry. If it doesnt improve I will get in touch with EK and see what they say
Guy on reddit was maxing out at 47C so definitely something wrong with mine. He has his in the same loop as his cpu, my cpu has its own loop.
Got the
Reddit - Dive into anything
Though I have just seen this!!!!!!!
Reddit - Dive into anything
I used the online instructions on my ipad while I was doing it and didnt read anything that shipped with the card.
Seems like I am meant to use 0.8mm and 1mm on the gpu side instead of 1mm and 1.5mm that the online instructions say! You would expect the online instructions to be more accurate.
And no idea which pads are 0.8mm and 1mm as they arent marked and difficult to tell from looking.
GRRRRRRRRRRR
EDIt Convinced a never saw a separate sheet of paper about the change in pad thicknesses. Will double check.
How would water be "better" exactly, when the air cooled 600W cards aren't limited by temperatures, but by voltage? Have a read around of reviews, it's been discussed to death. 4090 are limited by voltage. You need hardware volt/power mods to bypass this, if you do that then custom WC will actually give you better performance.
Lower temps=higher boost. Always has been for last few generations. Every 5 degrees or so means the boost drops back another notch. Watercooling my 3090 didnt mean i could over volt my card and try and get higher speeds (well it did for benchmarking only with the pumps on max and the fans on 100%) but it meant at 42C max temp I got a higher boost speed that stayed at that speed and didnt drop as temps rise like it did on an aircooler.
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Frequency scales with temperature, lower the temp and boost will increase and remains more stable than when on air .
Plan going forward is to do some more testing tonight and then strip the block down and retry. If it doesnt improve I will get in touch with EK and see what they say
Guy on reddit was maxing out at 47C so definitely something wrong with mine. He has his in the same loop as his cpu, my cpu has its own loop.
Got the
Reddit - Dive into anything
Though I have just seen this!!!!!!!
Reddit - Dive into anything
I used the online instructions on my ipad while I was doing it and didnt read anything that shipped with the card.
Seems like I am meant to use 0.8mm and 1mm on the gpu side instead of 1mm and 1.5mm that the online instructions say! You would expect the online instructions to be more accurate.
And no idea which pads are 0.8mm and 1mm as they arent marked and difficult to tell from looking.
GRRRRRRRRRRR
EDIt Convinced a never saw a separate sheet of paper about the change in pad thicknesses. Will double check.
Good to know re the updated instructions in the box.
Hopefully you can get it all figured out and running well in no time