NVIDIA 4000 Series

[MidKnight]

^.... this was his first post on the topic and from there on you can read. He doesn't understand he's a scalper and clearly purchased it to scalp and if not will be sent back in the return period, he had no intention of keeping it even from his first post he states that and then moves on later to make excuses that he purchased a water block and cablemod cables for it...

Seriously... It's right there what he had planned for it. To scalp it and then used these forums to highlight to people here he's selling it on ebay and gumtree for less than other sellers there now but still scalped, because his original scalped price was laughed at and now he's running out of time to scalp it a week he says before returning it for a refund.

No one should be defending this behaviour, I'm disgusted by it and by someone in our community again. The funny thing I and others on the FE drops let people know here and now sorry I won't be doing that as all I'm clearly tipping off scalpers to buy them.

And here again... clearly no intention of keeping it..






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I hear you and I guess I am just trying to take him at face value. I can’t disagree with your sentiments but I just didn’t get the impression he set out to scalp when he purchased the card. It ****** me off but then it also really annoys me nVidia cause this to a certain degree with they way manipulate supply.

 

[Curtis vincent]

^.... this was his first post on the topic and from there on you can read. He doesn't understand he's a scalper and clearly purchased it to scalp and if not will be sent back in the return period, he had no intention of keeping it even from his first post he states that and then moves on later to make excuses that he purchased a water block and cablemod cables for it...

Seriously... It's right there what he had planned for it. To scalp it and then used these forums to highlight to people here he's selling it on ebay and gumtree for less than other sellers there now but still scalped, because his original scalped price was laughed at and now he's running out of time to scalp it a week he says before returning it for a refund.

No one should be defending this behaviour, I'm disgusted by it and by someone in our community again. The funny thing I and others on the FE drops let people know here and now sorry I won't be doing that as all I'm clearly tipping off scalpers to buy them.

And here again... clearly no intention of keeping it..

“Clearly intended to scalp” do I literally need to show you my orders of a waterblock and cable-mod braided cable to prove this claim is a lie. You are clearly good at digging through my past posts. Instead of being selective to try and make your case against me (which I’m finding bizarre anyway) why don’t you highlight the ones where I say “I wish the waterblock wasn’t delayed so I can use the card already” etc etc. I shouldn’t bite. But this is just ridiculous at this point.

What more do I have to do to get you to understand it was nothing more than an error of judgement to post here and that I’m not doing anything malicious.

 

[Curtis vincent]

I hear you and I guess I am just trying to take him at face value. I can’t disagree with your sentiments but I just didn’t get the impression he set out to scalp when he purchased the card but perhaps I am being naive.

Thank you. I absolutely did not buy it with the intention of scalping. I may still yet keep the card…

 

[Joxeon]

but I just didn’t get the impression he set out to scalp when he purchased the card

This was true of a lot of scalpers but the temptation gets the better of them.

I remember getting my day one 3080 for £650 then seeing the cards on being sold for £1200 and being tempted at the time to sell as I thought I'd only have to wait a month or two before being able to pick another up but ultimately decided against it as it didn't feel right. Was the right call in the end as I made more than that during the mining boom then sold it around march this year for £950 having had 18 months use out of it.

 

[Purgatory]

Thank you. I absolutely did not buy it with the intention of scalping. I may still yet keep the card…

“Clearly intended to scalp” do I literally need to show you my orders of a waterblock and cable-mod braided cable to prove this claim is a lie. You are clearly good at digging through my past posts. Instead of being selective to try and make your case against me (which I’m finding bizarre anyway) why don’t you highlight the ones where I say “I wish the waterblock wasn’t delayed so I can use the card already” etc etc. I shouldn’t bite. But this is just ridiculous at this point.

What more do I have to do to get you to understand it was nothing more than an error of judgement to post here and that I’m not doing anything malicious.

Ok let's do some logic here ... with me siding with you.

You purchased the card and day you got it stuck it up on Ebay to scalp it.. Fact

Then you state you purchased a water block and cables for it (no proof)... For a card you are/were wanting to sell at a scalped rate (it's up for sale at scalped rate so .. is actually for sale) ?

Ok card sells ... why order the other bits as you state that one only works on the FE cards the water block? Or do you plan to again go buy another 4090 FE when you really have the right to only one and then basically either scalp that again or decide to keep it ?

BUT then you also stated many times if it doesn't sell you will return it in the return window... so why again did you supposedly buy a 4090 FE water block and the cable mod cables.?

Spoiler: Actually ..

Spoiler

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

BUT then you also stated many times if it doesn't sell you will return it in the return window... so why again did you supposedly buy a 4090 FE water block and the cable mod cables.?

Oof. That’s the killing blow right there.

 

[DeliciousStorage]

How did you even get one, I thought they weren't out yet. I've got my 4090 now but got to wait like a month for it

Man the EK 4090 blocks are now saying mid- late november I dont wanna wait that long, Wanna use my 4090 now

7900 xtx is 1000 dollars
If the stats are legit 4090 just got wrecked on price
May return the 4090, didn't open it just in case this happened

Yeah this is why I havem't unboxed my FE yet. Its really hard to say but it looks like its gonna come in about 15% less powerful. But its over 500 quid cheaper. Seems more of a competitor to 4080 16gb on performance but beats both on value for money. idk 4090 will definitely be better, question is by how much in the real world, and is that difference worth spending extra for. definitely wont beat it in ray tracing at all or come near, but everything else looks not far off

To be fair his story adds up, he was waiting for a water block and changed his mind when he saw how much better value the 7900 XTX is.

 

[Purgatory]

To be fair his story adds up, he was waiting for a water block and changed his mind when he saw how much better value the 7900 XTX is.

It may add up but the scalping doesn't to me. Also I have a feeling he got excited purchased it never opened it and had buyers remorse and should have just sent it back for a refund but then decided to scalp it instead as an option and if that fails to return it for a refund. There is clearly more to it.

Who buys something excited to get it and not even open the package and still have it sealed ? You know what I mean? Like it all feels like well I got one lets scalp it if I can first if not send it back or maybe use it.. then realised water blocks take ages to get and then probably the expense and he has 3080ti anyways and thought this is not worth all the hassle and expense in the end.

I don't know and really don't care .. he came off to me like he's advertising it to the OCUK forums and look I have one on ebay and gumtree for less than the other scalpers if you want one. Not my forums and the Mods will decide in the morning once they see this mess what to do.

 

[DeliciousStorage]

It may add up but the scalping doesn't to me. Also I have a feeling he got excited purchased it never opened it and had buyers remorse and should have just sent it back for a refund but then decided to scalp it instead as an option and if that fails to return it for a refund. There is clearly more to it.

Who buys something excited to get it and not even open the package and still have it sealed ? You know what I mean? Like it all feels like well I got one lets scalp it if I can first if not send it back or maybe use it.. then realised water blocks take ages to get and then probably the expense and he has 3080ti anyways and thought this is not worth all the hassle and expense in the end.

I don't know and really don't care .. he came off to me like he's advertising it to the OCUK forums and look I have one on ebay and gumtree for less than the other scalpers if you want one. Not my forums and the Mods will decide in the morning once they see this mess what to do.

Founders edition drops don't happen every day and you're not guaranteed to get one even if you have alerts set up, so it would make sense that he bought it when he saw the opportunity and decided to wait for AMD's announcement before opening it. If he returns it he loses about £20 in return postage costs, and loses the opportunity to buy another one at MSRP if he changes his mind again when the 7900 XTX reviews are out, so I can see the logic in wanting to sell it.

 

[Purgatory]

Founders edition drops don't happen every day and you're not guaranteed to get one even if you have alerts set up, so it would make sense that he bought it when he saw the opportunity and decided to wait for AMD's announcement before opening it. It he returns it he loses about £20 in return postage costs, and loses the opportunity to buy another one at MSRP if he changes his mind again when the 7900 XTX reviews are out, so I can see the logic in wanting to sell it.

The reviews for 7900 will be out after his return window closes. So no matter what he decides, two things will have happened :-

1- He sells/returns the card now or later/before return window closes, can't buy a new one as one per customer.

2-7900 reviews out, but they are out in December so his return window is well and truly closed and he may have sold it before then anyways and again can't buy a new one if he decided the 7900 is not for him after reviews.


So we say he doesn't sell it waits for reviews to be out by then his card has lost value even more maybe or we are still back to him scalping it as he won't be selling it for what he paid clearly.

It's already starting to hit the scalpers on other forums this as people now are telling them they will pay less than MSRP and any with scalped prices to basically get lost and shown retailers with cards in stock for less than what they are scalping them at..

Example here where the seller started at way over £2000 :-












My favourite reply to the seller :-





Scalping is done.. and anyone that thinks they can scalp to UK people has lost the plot, the only people buying these cards on ebay are countries that can't get them and then you risk selling to some person in another country that will tell ebay they never got it or some other excuse to get refunded.

This guys reply above "we're not in 2021" has hit the nail on the head ... there are cards everywhere in stock, yes with silly prices for some but some are not far off msrp or even at msrp now if you look around. Scalping and gouging needs to stop now and people are now fed up of being taken for a ride.

 

[DeliciousStorage]

The reviews for 7900 will be out after his return window closes. So no matter what he decides, two things will have happened :-

1- He sells/returns the card now or later/before return window closes, can't buy a new one as one per customer.

2-7900 reviews out, but they are out in December so his return window is well and truly closed and he may have sold it before then anyways and again can't buy a new one if he decided the 7900 is not for him after reviews.


So we say he doesn't sell it waits for reviews to be out by then his card has lost value even more maybe or we are still back to him scalping it as he won't be selling it for what he paid clearly.

It's already starting to hit the scalpers on other forums this as people now are telling them they will pay less than MSRP and any with scalped prices to basically get lost and shown retailers with cards in stock for less than what they are scalping them at..

Example here where the seller started at way over £2000 :-












My favourite reply to the seller :-





Scalping is done.. and anyone thinks they can scalp to UK people has lost the plot, the only people buying these cards on ebay are countries that can't get them and then you risk selling to some person in another country that will tell ebay they never got it or some other excuse to get refunded.

This guys reply above "we're not in 2021" has hit the nail on the head ... there are cards everywhere in stock, yes with silly prices for some but some are not far off msrp or even at msrp now if you look around. Scalping and gouging needs to stop now and people are now fed up of being taken for a ride.

I agree that he might struggle to sell it for profit, and personally I don't think the risk/reward ratio is even worth it for £100-£150. However his post history shows he clearly didn't originally purchase it with the intention to scalp on eBay as he was accused, nobody was expecting the 7900 XTX to be $999. If he returns it he loses money on insured return postage costs, so I can understand the temptation to try and sell it first.

 

[Purgatory]

I agree that he might struggle to sell it for profit, and personally I don't think the risk/reward ratio is even worth it for £100-£150. However his post history shows he clearly didn't originally purchase it with the intention to scalp on eBay as he was accused, nobody was expecting the 7900 XTX to be $999. If he returns it he loses money on insured return postage costs, so I can understand the temptation to try and sell it first.

nah always wanted one. but i just didn't open it because i wanted to wait and see what AMD had to say. I may re buy later on just want to know the pound per fps value makes sense for me. Wasn't expecting AMD to be claiming performance like they are. Gonna wait till reviews of those before making another move. Money not the issue for me, value is.
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£20 to return it is not a big deal but now become a big deal, but trying to scalp it for 100s of £ more is ok because he will make a £20 loss on a £1700 item? Seriously I have heard it all now... You don't need to make excuses up for him, he's a grown up let him fight his own battles, he's admitted to scalping and even admitted he's not happy with it not selling and had to reduce the price and if it doesn't sell he will return it (then make a £20 loss still). Wow really.

 

[DeliciousStorage]

I don't think I phrased my point earlier very well. He can't buy another one at MSRP again so if he sold it now for £1800-£1900, and the reviews for the 7900 XTX turn out to be much worse than expected, he could change his mind again and purchase a another 4090 for the same price he sold it.

 

[arknor]

so many time wasters wanting to buy a card it seems fromt he above posts

 

[Purgatory]

I don't think I phrased my point earlier very well. He can't buy another one at MSRP again so if he sold it now for £1800-£1900, and the reviews for the 7900 XTX turn out to be much worse than expected, he could change his mind again and purchase a another 4090 for the same price he sold it.

But he can't buy a 4090 FE (one per customer) again but an AIB only...


BUT he stated he purchased a 4090 FE water block... So he will have to go to a scalper to buy another 4090 FE or play the system and buy another one... Sorry it all sounds scummy to me and too many last gen played the system to buy more than one FE card and made real users miss out because people like them were buying them to scalp them.

 

[Purgatory]

They were not similar offers, it was a history of previously sold items, the context was how the second hand market is changing. My return window is not for another week and a half. I may still yet keep the card. after my initial post and someone replied about my own price I literally said Idk if I'm allowed to say here so if not delete. If its that much of a big deal delete the comments. I was not here to advertise, or am intentionally scalping. If that's how it came across, then apologies. But If I was scalping then I've gone about it in the most illogical way lol. My preference is to keep the card in all honesty. I'm a 3d artist that wfh and I was buying as an investment. AMD made things more complicated....

@DeliciousStorage He states he's a 3D artist... 99% of 3D artists are using Nvidia for Cuda and Optix in 3D apps ... not a gaming card that has some potential creator uses. As a 3D artist he would know Nvidia is the card that works best with 3D apps and at professional level expected to use Nvidia on many of these 3D apps, that's the trap Nvidia has most of us under especially pro users of apps that need CUDA or OPTIX support.

 

[Josh]

Thanks for raising this - we're aware of the situation and currently discussing the way forward.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Looks like the shows over now. It was entertaining while it lasted.

The image of the scalper struggling to sell the card was funny. The first reply were he beats him down to below msrp was brilliant.

I couldn’t help but notice that one of the replies was from a name I recognise on these forums.

 

[MidKnight]

Looks like the shows over now. It was entertaining while it lasted.

The image of the scalper struggling to sell the card was funny. The first reply were he beats him down to below msrp was brilliant.

I couldn’t help but notice that one of the replies was from a name I recognise on these forums.

Yeah it was me - I nearly had a moment of weakness as I had sold my 3090 and now have no GFX card but then I came to my senses and didn't buy as I have decided to just wait and get one direct from with Overclockers (when they get in a brand I want) of an FE (which is what I am really after).

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Yeah it was me - I nearly had a moment of weakness as I had sold my 3090 and now have no GFX card but then I came to my senses and didn't buy as I have decided to just wait and get one direct from with Overclockers (when they get in a brand I want) of an FE (which is what I am really after).

You’re in luck I’ve heard there is guy trying to get rid of 4090 fe whose throwing in a free water block and cable mod cables

On a more serious note, fair play for resisting the dark side.