NVIDIA 4000 Series

Richdog · 12 Jan 2023 at 14:17

Well, to end my saga, after I was told my Palit would be a week delayed I just said screw it and ordered a Gigabyte Gaming OC which should arrive tomorrow. It's £60 extra but in the top tier of cards and meant to have low fan noise and low coil whine, in addition to the 4 years warranty and 600w power limit which should help resale value too. I just want to play Skyrim VR at max eye candy at 90fps now and I'm not prepared to wait any longer.

Interestingly it seems supply of 4090's has really ramped up and they are pretty much now constantly in stock in the Eurozone. I guess demand has tapered out, mixed with increased sales of other cards.

Grim5 · 12 Jan 2023 at 19:21

Richdog said:
Well, to end my saga, after I was told my Palit would be a week delayed I just said screw it and ordered a Gigabyte Gaming OC which should arrive tomorrow. It's £60 extra but in the top tier of cards and meant to have low fan noise and low coil whine, in addition to the 4 years warranty and 600w power limit which should help resale value too. I just want to play Skyrim VR at max eye candy at 90fps now and I'm not prepared to wait any longer.

Interestingly it seems supply of 4090's has really ramped up and they are pretty much now constantly in stock in the Eurozone. I guess demand has tapered out, mixed with increased sales of other cards.

Price drops incoming

IceWolf · 12 Jan 2023 at 19:26

Grim5 said:
Price drops incoming

They need to. 4090s ARE instock in Switzerland and Germany but are minimum €2150. The €1850 FE is never in stock.

lsg1r · 12 Jan 2023 at 20:52

Grim5 said:
Price drops incoming

we can all hope... but I suspect we've got another month or two before nvidia 'reads the room'.

Gerard · 12 Jan 2023 at 22:40

IceWolf said:
The €1850 FE is never in stock.

Funny how things have changed, used to be everyone went for the aib card price be damned as the FE cooler was barely adequate. Now nvidia are making good coolers people are shunning the aib cards and wanting the FE.

GoogalyMoogaly · 12 Jan 2023 at 22:46

Gerard said:
Funny how things have changed, used to be everyone went for the aib card price be damned as the FE cooler was barely adequate. Now nvidia are making good coolers people are shunning the aib cards and wanting the FE.

Isn't that as much to do with Nvidia cherry picking the chips (and the power limit) as the cooler?

RavenXXX2 · 12 Jan 2023 at 22:51

ocuk have a number of £1699 4090s in stock, looks like the big spenders are drying up.

Gerard · 12 Jan 2023 at 23:38

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Isn't that as much to do with Nvidia cherry picking the chips (and the power limit) as the cooler?

More so the cooler was overbuilt for what its currently handling.

von Humboldt · 13 Jan 2023 at 02:19

It helps that the cooler is smaller than the AIB cards as well. It would be the main reason I'd get an FE if I could - otherwise I'd be paying more for a non-FE card, and buying a new case to boot!

Jimmy Weirdarms · 13 Jan 2023 at 02:54

Gerard said:
Funny how things have changed, used to be everyone went for the aib card price be damned as the FE cooler was barely adequate. Now nvidia are making good coolers people are shunning the aib cards and wanting the FE.

Used to be the FE came out first and cost more than entry-level AIBs too, it was like a special "advanced purchase" for those who wanted to get ahead of the game and were OK spending a bit more to do that.

With the 3xxx series it was the only way to get one anywhere near MSRP. All changed I guess.

andybird123 · 13 Jan 2023 at 03:05

Best Buy in the US are selling returned 4090's for $1200

Richdog · 13 Jan 2023 at 03:58

Grim5 said:
Price drops incoming

They already did drop, check OCUK prices of Gigabyte etc!

IceWolf said:
They need to. 4090s ARE instock in Switzerland and Germany but are minimum €2150. The €1850 FE is never in stock.

In Switzerland prices are currently minimum 1850-1900EUR for in stock cards, Germany is 10%+ more expensive!

IceWolf · 13 Jan 2023 at 05:45

Richdog said:
They already did drop, check OCUK prices of Gigabyte etc!

In Switzerland prices are currently minimum 1850-1900EUR for in stock cards, Germany is 10%+ more expensive!

The Swiss prices are EXTREMELY stock dependent. When they haven't sold any for a while the prices creep down towards 1900 CHF but as soon as they run low they shoot back up to 2200 CHF

I gave up waiting and got a 4080 Ventus (nicest looking IMO) for 1330 CHF (120 under RRP) when it was temporarily reduced due to folks not buying. But most 4080s are still going for over 1400 CHF, 1500+ CHF for those that are in stock :cry:

Richdog · 13 Jan 2023 at 06:06

IceWolf said:
The Swiss prices are EXTREMELY stock dependent. When they haven't sold any for a while the prices creep down towards 1900 CHF but as soon as they run low they shoot back up to 2200 CHF

I gave up waiting and got a 4080 Ventus (nicest looking IMO) for 1330 CHF (120 under RRP) when it was temporarily reduced due to folks not buying. But most 4080s are still going for over 1400 CHF, 1500+ CHF for those that are in stock

Cards are now regularly in stock since a couple of weeks... MSI Trio and similar class cost around 1930chf and MSI Suprim and Gigabyte Gaming OC cost 1999chf. You can check on Toppreise.

TNA · 13 Jan 2023 at 06:13

Richdog said:
Interestingly it seems supply of 4090's has really ramped up and they are pretty much now constantly in stock in the Eurozone. I guess demand has tapered out, mixed with increased sales of other cards.

Supply has not ramped up. Demand has fallen..

of a cliff

IceWolf · 13 Jan 2023 at 06:21

Richdog said:
Cards are now regularly in stock since a couple of weeks... MSI Trio and similar class cost around 1930chf and MSI Suprim and Gigabyte Gaming OC cost 1999chf. You can check on Toppreise.

Yeah sorry, I excluded the gaming X Trio from my searches as I just cannot stand the shape, let alone the RGB :cry:

Most of those are preorders for a few months ahead

LtMatt · 13 Jan 2023 at 08:01

IceWolf said:
Yeah sorry, I excluded the gaming X Trio from my searches as I just cannot stand the shape, let alone the RGB

Most of those are preorders for a few months ahead

For whatever it is worth, the Trio was the worst 4090 I’d used out of the GameRock and the Suprim X.

JediFragger · 13 Jan 2023 at 08:37

LtMatt said:
For whatever it is worth, the Trio was the worst 4090 I’d used out of the GameRock and the Suprim X.

Software for the RGB was great though

Noxia · 13 Jan 2023 at 08:50

LtMatt said:
For whatever it is worth, the Trio was the worst 4090 I’d used out of the GameRock and the Suprim X.

What was wrong with Suprim? Coil whine annoys me but I don't hear it when I am gaming unless the game goes silent for some reason.

LtMatt · 13 Jan 2023 at 08:53

Noxia said:
What was wrong with Suprim? Coil whine annoys me but I don't hear it when I am gaming unless the game goes silent for some reason.

Nothing per se mate, was just the worst of the 4090s I tried. Does not mean it was bad tbf, just had the worse temps, saggiest cooler, worst looking RGB and most importantly, the unusable RGB software for me when I had it. Tried clean Win 10/11 OS installs and it wouldn't work on either, plus it was stuck at 450W although the latter would have been changeable via a BIOS update which I was not aware of at the time. It only came with a 3x8pin too and the adapter mine had didn't click in properly. No issues with it burning up though luckily.