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Still not getting a 5090
forums.overclockers.co.uk
Just to quote those posts for the lols:
*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***
If I stay at 3440x1440 then yes, even if a game in 3-4 years time comes out with twice the graphical demand of Cyberpunk 2077, then I can simply go from DLSS Quality to DLSS Performance as that takes me to over my framecap of 139fps (Gsync) whereas currently it sits at 120fps. I've already...
There are more but these will do
Do you think he is. Hence 5090 incoming imo. Not just that, but new tech and fomo.
He will start justifying it by saying he got lots of money for his 4090 and it was only xxx more for the 5090.
Obvious stuff. And i told him this, but was not having it saying how the 4090 is so powerful that won't need an upgrade etc etc as you can see in his long as post i quoted above which aged like milk
My FIL, every time...We knew from a year ago. He is only starting realise that now I think.
The bit that makes me laugh is how he speaks with 100% certainly and lays out the reasons why he won't be upgrading. Proper lol stuff
Pretty sure the FE warranty doesn't transfer from the original purchaser. So unless you get that second hand card from a mate willing to RMA for you if you have problems then it has no warranty.
wccftech.com
Wcftech seem to think the 5080 will be the first out of the gate this time.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB GPU First To Launch In January 2025, Followed By Flagship RTX 5090 32 GB GPU
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5080 16 GB GPU will be the first Blackwell gaming card to hit shelves in January followed by the RTX 5090 flagship.
They announce the prices there and then at CES don't they? Just convert dollars to pounds and add +20% vat for a rough idea.Could be even mid February before we know the 5090 price
Maybe they want everyone to cave and buy a 5080 before the market is flooded with second hand 4090s
Maybe they want everyone to cave and buy a 5080 before the market is flooded with second hand 4090s
No, I simply have functioning eyes.
Unlike tiny details that people like to bring up as in many cases, which you need high magnification to see, crawling noise is a very visible thing in motion, same as ghosting on many objects. Our eyes react mainly to contrast and luminance changes and not colours (just because we have many more receptors in our eyes responsible for that than for colour recognition) and in many cases here you have very contrasting noise crawling over darker areas, shadows, textures, reflections etc. One would have to have physically damaged eyes to not see that, it feels. That said, I dislike noise in image, I always turn off film grain and similar effects as well as they are too distracting for me - some other people might consider noise to be just normal thing and do not pay attention to it, but it's not normal. To be clear, RT/PT games aren't the only games that have this problem - BO6 doesn't use RT AFAIK and noise is so bad in it, I stopped playing that game (plus other artefacts as game is still very buggy). Devs using cheap solutions instead of proper ones, for cost cutting and then trying to mask it with TAA or not even bothering with that and then it looks really bad.As HUB shown in other video - there are plenty of games where RT doesn't bring any improvements at all, or even worsens the image. RT/PT by itself is just one of many tools in developer's portfolio and how they use it and to what effect is a very different thing from just saying "It's always better" - as reality shown, it's not always better. Most of the time it's also outside usable range of most gamers (as majority has xx60 cards class, often from previous generations), or forces 30FPS on consoles so gets disabled to get to 60FPS.
I've been mentioning this for years now, in here (and not only).
I am glad HUB actually released the video (TI and other channels also shown similar things) to shine some light on why people think their eyes got worse or games got more blurry - games really did get much more blurry! And it's mostly caused by premature push of this tech to the market plus cost-cutting publishers, pushing games ASAP without giving devs time to actually do things properly. Modern GPUs (even 4090) are way (hundreds times actually) too slow to generate proper quality PT image, they barely handle simplified RT as is. We get very small number of samples per pixel so final image is just a noisy mess - as in this example from Q2 RTX, just to demonstrate how PT image in games really looks like before all the crutches are being used to turn it into something more usable:Absolutely not true - topics about it with screenshots and videos have been shown on these forums and other places for years now. Consumers love to have selective amnesia just to excuse their own spendings on new shiny toys.
It is for me. It's way too early for this tech in current state - both from quality and performance standpoints. And yet it's being pushed forth against majority of the market who can't even run it properly. NVIDIA marketing and monies talk, really. We'll get there in time, to the point it will reach lower tiers of GPUs with sensible performance after all the AI crutches are added to it (many such revealed in scientific papers recently - many of such coming from NVIDIA). Without all the AI helpers it's near unusable in the current form for me, outside of tech demos, as a curiosity - I don't like to play blurry games full of noise, ghosting and other artefacts. To me it's like releasing new car model with no wheels yet, just on sledges and 1 old, slow horse pulling it, promising wheels will arrive eventually - but by then one might need a new car anyway. Not ideal solution from the consumer's point of view, is it?
In games where it works well and actually brings visual improvements. As per their bit older video - plenty of examples where it doesn't bring anything good to the table, like for example in D4.
Shiny, flat bits are much easier and faster to calculate in RT/PT, as all the rays reflect in the same way, so can be calculated at the same time, saving loads of time. Add roughness to the surface, uneven surfaces and things quickly get much slower. This is one of the main reasons why they do it - it looks bling, but it also works faster (more FPS!). Personally I like GI most of all but it's still too laggy and noisy in dynamic games. And in static games, you might as well just bake it in, or use hybrid methods. Over 10y ago NVIDIA shown voxel based accurate RT for GI, shadows etc. - it worked so well it passed realism tests but they ditched it for some reason (it worked well on 900 series cards!) and instead decided to push for full PT on GPUs that are just way too slow for it. And here we are.
Fun fact - the connector does NOT change with 5000 series cards. And 5090 has 600W TBP it seems, so we'll see plenty more melted connectors most likely.
It's no different from him saying he's not a pixel peeper whilst I still recall all the dozens of screenshots posted by him doing exactly what he claim he doesn't do.We knew from a year ago. He is only starting realise that now I think.
The bit that makes me laugh is how he speaks with 100% certainly and lays out the reasons why he won't be upgrading. Proper lol stuff
