NVIDIA 780 Ti Announced (18/10/13)

Devious · 26 Oct 2013 at 19:27

chaparral said:
There so many different things that can also effect the score...

Ram , CPU , Motherboard , windows version , Drivers, 32bit/64bit OS, etc

So you can never really compare one GPU score against another GPU score unless they where both in the same system with only the GPU changed

We know that, we were discussing Physics score. Read above.

eddyr · 26 Oct 2013 at 19:52

humbug said:
Who buys a gaming card that slower in gaming than the 780TI but faster in compute?

The Titan is going to get discontinued.

Titan is it's own product segment beyond being just a gaming card and many people value it because of its compute. Something which the 780ti can't do near as well. The 780ti despite a boost to gaming perf is not a Titan. If it can command it's price and bring in revenue because of it, from those who wouldn't otherwise buy a Tesla product or whatever other reason, there is no reason to discontinue it.

Quixote · 26 Oct 2013 at 21:06

eddyr said:
Titan is it's own product segment beyond being just a gaming card and many people value it because of its compute. Something which the 780ti can't do near as well. The 780ti despite a boost to gaming perf is not a Titan. If it can command it's price and bring in revenue because of it, from those who wouldn't otherwise buy a Tesla product or whatever other reason, there is no reason to discontinue it.

This is what people don't seem to get. I'm pretty sure a large proportion of Titan sales were for GPU rendering & other productivity uses : Believe me, in those circles its talked about very highly since day 1. With GPU rendering, all the meshes & textures have to fit into the GDRAM of the Graphics card - the 6GB of the Titan wasn't some vanity luxury thing - it allowed people to render sets & scenes twice as big (in data terms).
A PC with a moderate CPU & 4 Titans with a huge PSU is the standard render-node configuration for Octane render pipelines for example. Granted, this is only a small corner of the Cg rendering market.

Titan wasn't just a halfway between a tesla & GeForce in architecture, it was a halfway in terms of features & user-base too. It never made sense as gaming card in financial terms, although I'm sure that lots of the bling brigade bought them anyway, their call I guess.

humbug · 26 Oct 2013 at 23:40

eddyr said:
Titan is it's own product segment beyond being just a gaming card and many people value it because of its compute. Something which the 780ti can't do near as well. The 780ti despite a boost to gaming perf is not a Titan. If it can command it's price and bring in revenue because of it, from those who wouldn't otherwise buy a Tesla product or whatever other reason, there is no reason to discontinue it.

It looks to me like an overclocked Titan, you say its not, whats the physical difference?

eddyr · 26 Oct 2013 at 23:47

humbug said:
It looks to me like an overclocked Titan, you say its not, whats the physical difference?

The 780ti will likely have a fraction of the double precision capabilities is pretty much it, as the 780 did.

Rusty0611 · 26 Oct 2013 at 23:50

humbug said:
Because it was £1000.

Are you really that confused or are you simply looking for a reaction by knowingly spreading misinformation. It was £800ish - some retailers price gouged to £1000 but that doesn't mean it was £1000 full stop.

I don't know why you're bringing your agenda into this thread. Surely you can get everything you want from the 290X threads.

humbug · 26 Oct 2013 at 23:54

Calm Down ^^^ its just a GPU.

eddyr said:
The 780ti will likely have a fraction of the double precision capabilities is pretty much it, as the 780 did.

"will likely" so you don't know, it will just as likely have the same double precision capabilities as the Titan, it looks to me like a re-badged Titan.

Orangey · 26 Oct 2013 at 23:57

I recall it being closer to 900, maybe that was just the usual brand tax though. Like now with the 290X, lowest is 430 highest is 500.

Rusty0611 · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:01

humbug said:
Calm Down ^^^ its just a GPU.

I'm glad you said that because it's quite apt - you're the one who keeps saying over multiple threads even after being corrected that its price was £1000 when it wasn't. I don't understand why...

If you keep spreading misinformation you will continue to be corrected

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Five.Stars · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:05

Boomstick777 said:
The Ti is rumored to come in at current 780 price £500+ not £800+.

780 prob drop to £400+ 780ti @ £500+. Titan go EOL or maybe even continue selling as doesn't really effect 7XX stack, kind of an anomaly.

My prediction,

290X £430+ VS 780ti £500+
290 £325+ VS 780 £400+
280X £230+ VS 770 £300+

So AMD have it won price/ performance at the top 3 tiers?

arc@css · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:10

Quixote said:
This is what people don't seem to get. I'm pretty sure a large proportion of Titan sales were for GPU rendering & other productivity uses : Believe me, in those circles its talked about very highly since day 1. With GPU rendering, all the meshes & textures have to fit into the GDRAM of the Graphics card - the 6GB of the Titan wasn't some vanity luxury thing - it allowed people to render sets & scenes twice as big (in data terms).
A PC with a moderate CPU & 4 Titans with a huge PSU is the standard render-node configuration for Octane render pipelines for example. Granted, this is only a small corner of the Cg rendering market.

Titan wasn't just a halfway between a tesla & GeForce in architecture, it was a halfway in terms of features & user-base too. It never made sense as gaming card in financial terms, although I'm sure that lots of the bling brigade bought them anyway, their call I guess.

+1

Five.Stars · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:15

Gregster said:
Not sure why you keep saying the Titan was £1000 at launch? No matter how many times I correct you, you still say it was £1000.

It was $1000, which put it somewhere between £600 - £700, but a combination of VAT + price gouging meant it WAS £1000 at most retailers at launch.

Rusty0611 · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:17

Five.Stars said:
It was $1000, which put it somewhere between £600 - £700, but a combination of VAT + price gouging meant it WAS £1000 at most retailers at launch.

Well that's funny because most people who have a Titan all say they paid around the same amount for it

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Rroff · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:20

Um I can't remember exact prices now but I distinctly remember it was something like £864 right at launch but once the first lot were gone (which was within hours) it jumped upto a grand for most if not all models for atleast a week before prices dropped back again.

mmj_uk · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:25

Five.Stars said:
So AMD have it won price/ performance at the top 3 tiers?

Not surprising really though is it, AMD nearly always cater to the benchmark obsessed penny pinchers.

NVidia charge more than AMD because there's an equally big user base willing to pay more for quality in other areas of the product.

humbug · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:55

mmj_uk said:
Not surprising really though is it, AMD nearly always cater to the benchmark obsessed penny pinchers.

NVidia charge more than AMD because there's an equally big user base willing to pay more for quality in other areas of the product.

AMD users are penny pincher's and Nvidia users go for quality, nice.

Some might say that Nvidia users are sheep sucked in by Nvidia's "better quality" marketing. while AMD users are clever enough to see through it.

Rroff · 27 Oct 2013 at 00:58

humbug said:
while AMD users are clever enough to see through it.

Hah you mean take at face value whatever politicalized spin AMD pull next

whyscotty · 27 Oct 2013 at 01:07

Five.Stars said:
It was $1000, which put it somewhere between £600 - £700, but a combination of VAT + price gouging meant it WAS £1000 at most retailers at launch.

£839 at launch for my Asus one's

Five.Stars · 27 Oct 2013 at 01:08

Fair enough, I stand corrected

humbug · 27 Oct 2013 at 01:08

Rroff said:
Hah you mean take at face value whatever politicalized spin AMD pull next

Nope.