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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Once 3080 Ti launches, things would get even worse as that's one more SKU to devote resources to at the top-end.
Suspect they are putting a lot into making sure they have stock for a 3080ti. More expensive and more demand it'll be a real money winner if it comes out with actual stock. People will push their budgets to get it so nvidia won't want to miss out on that money.
 
I wouldn't say "crappy". Just from a quick look I could manage a 10400F, MSI Z490 Gaming Plus, 16GB 3600MHz DDR4, RTX 3060 Ti FE, 1TB PNY CS900 SSD, Corsair TXM 650W Gold PSU and Phanteks P400A case for £920. Lots of room to move downwards from there too, since that's far from picking the cheapest options. Would make an excellent 1440p gaming system, faster than what was considered high end just a couple of months ago.

mall good, looks like your pc part prices are cheaper than down under so that works in your favour - I see you guys complain about prices but ours is worse
 
You do know Ampere has been £750+ for a couple of months now, right?

If you were talking about the ridiculous 3090 at £1500 then yes I could understand your comment that you could build a good gaming PC for that price, but the ASUS ROG Strix 3080 isn't exactly a giant leap over other highly priced 3080's or 6800XT's at the moment.

@Richdog its strange as like in another thread I built a machine last week and the same case is now up a tenner (was £35), even low tier stuff is selling out or getting markup. So no, you cant build a good anything.. especially quoting a 3060Ti in the build which is also sold out everywhere! I see some of these AIB's are nearly as much as a 3070 and some 3070 AIB are as much as a 3080..
Just from a quick look I could manage a 10400F, MSI Z490 Gaming Plus, 16GB 3600MHz DDR4, RTX 3060 Ti FE, 1TB PNY CS900 SSD, Corsair TXM 650W Gold PSU and Phanteks P400A case for £920.
 
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Suspect they are putting a lot into making sure they have stock for a 3080ti. More expensive and more demand it'll be a real money winner if it comes out with actual stock. People will push their budgets to get it so nvidia won't want to miss out on that money.
I am just hoping for at least 2 mins of stock availability on launch day. The 3080 Ti would face high demand from 3080 owners who bought it due to no reasonable better alternative and also potential 3090 buyers, who will snatch this up for equal performance.
 
@Richdog its strange as like in another thread I built a machine last week and the same case is now up a tenner (was £35), even low tier stuff is selling out or getting markup. So no, you cant build a good anything.. especially quoting a 3060Ti in the build which is also sold out everywhere! I see some of these AIB's are nearly as much as a 3070 and some 3070 AIB are as much as a 3080..
Yeah, demand is stripping supply and cheap good quality components are hard to find. I guess when people say these things they are talking more about the "normal" state of the PC industry, which was basically any time before Q3 2020.
I am just hoping for at least 2 mins of stock availability on launch day. The 3080 Ti would face high demand from 3080 owners who bought it due to no reasonable better alternative and also potential 3090 buyers, who will snatch this up for equal performance.

I think RTX 3080 owners are largely happy people who have 85% of the performance of a 3080 Ti (assuming it's 3090 performance) for 65% of the price (assuming it's around £1100). While I still am definitely not happy with the 10GB VRAM decision (which I think is the ONLY potential downside going into 2021/2022) I also now think that it's currently, overall with all things considered (DLSS, RT etc), the best card on the market if you get one for a good price. If you buy one for scalped prices then I think it's a recipe for buyers remorse. If I can find one for a lower price (I have seen the ASUS TUF for £600/ 700 EUR on preorder) then I may go for it... otherwise I will wait till January to see how these 3070TI/3080Ti rumours develop.

I never thought that AMD would screw up the 6800XT launch so badly that it would on average be more expensive than the 3080 while performing worse at 4K and thus make the 3080 more appealing, but yeah... lesson learnt.

I have seen a few people saying "there's no such thing as a bad card, only bad prices". While clearly a generalization, it is also to a large extent true; lower prices make flaws more acceptable. At £800+ I would never buy a 3080 (or a 6800XT for that matter)... but at around £650 I likely would.
 
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I am just hoping for at least 2 mins of stock availability on launch day. The 3080 Ti would face high demand from 3080 owners who bought it due to no reasonable better alternative and also potential 3090 buyers, who will snatch this up for equal performance.

At 1440p, I'll stick with the 3080 until Hopper/RDNA3. If I wanted better I would have just grabbed a 3090, but I don't see the point as I think Ampere will also age badly.
 
I never thought that AMD would screw up the 6800XT launch so badly that it would on average be more expensive than the 3080 while performing worse at 4K and thus make the 3080 more appealing, but yeah... lesson learnt.

Exactly, cheesed me off by not being able to get one but the extra price made me drop the idea. It looks like they will be in short supply at least until we hit 2021 so I didnt wait around.
 
Exactly, cheesed me off by not being able to get one but the extra price made me drop the idea. It looks like they will be in short supply at least until we hit 2021 so I didnt wait around.

I was aiming for the 6800 XT, but there's absolutely no stock anywhere, and even my stock alerts have been totally silent. In the end, I settled for the 6800 when Gibbo made them available, as I was fed up with waiting.

The upgrade bug has probably cost me more money than is wise, but at least I can now sit out the rest of this nonsense! :p
 
I am just hoping for at least 2 mins of stock availability on launch day. The 3080 Ti would face high demand from 3080 owners who bought it due to no reasonable better alternative and also potential 3090 buyers, who will snatch this up for equal performance.

There were leaks regarding the 3080 ti launch in early 2021 but I don't see why nvidia would stick to the original schedule now that AMD **** its pants with availability. I don't see the point in holding out anymore.. unless you are okay with midcycle upgrades.
 
Dont forget, once we are out of the EU, stock coming in from abroad will take ages to clear in the ports.

There is already a strain of stuff coming from the ports. They are having to fly the vaccines via army planes for example.

Its mental really and expect even more delays and scarse in everything we import
 
Dont forget, once we are out of the EU, stock coming in from abroad will take ages to clear in the ports.

There is already a strain of stuff coming from the ports. They are having to fly the vaccines via army planes for example.

Its mental really and expect even more delays and scarse in everything we import

We are already out of the EU mate, some time ago. :)
 
What he means is more red tape and 'fees' could creep in which would make things either more expensive or slower to obtain (or both)! :)

Oh yes, obviously there's going to be a cost, to both sides of the channel. What we should be looking at is receiving direct shipments from the manufacturers, rather than relying on Europe. They can obviously do it for the rest of the world, so why not us?
 
Oh yes, obviously there's going to be a cost, to both sides of the channel. What we should be looking at is receiving direct shipments from the manufacturers, rather than relying on Europe. They can obviously do it for the rest of the world, so why not us?
I'm sure you'll have it all sorted by the 1st January.
 
Oh yes, obviously there's going to be a cost, to both sides of the channel. What we should be looking at is receiving direct shipments from the manufacturers, rather than relying on Europe. They can obviously do it for the rest of the world, so why not us?

Yeah maybe though people who are waiting and thinking that is a good tactic could be in for a shock when extras are bloated over, suddenly the cards may get more bent out of shape on price.
 
Oh yes, obviously there's going to be a cost, to both sides of the channel. What we should be looking at is receiving direct shipments from the manufacturers, rather than relying on Europe. They can obviously do it for the rest of the world, so why not us?
its cheaper for shipments to come into mainland europe and then distributed around europe(including uk) Now we will ask it to be shipped directly to UK.. how?

shipments come in boats generally and good luck routing a boat from asia or india region to go just directly to the UK....

This is why its quicker and cheaper to route all trading to the main ports in mainland europe and then distribute it all over.

Also, 1st of Jan is when we are officially out of EU,

Right at this moment in time we are still in the EU lol
 
Only way to benefit is get the direct trade deal for source. Cant see it happening otherwise we would be hearing the buzz already but a golden trade deal with no import garbage would be severely welcome after lumping through treacle EU nonsense for years.
now now, they cant even get a good trade deal with eu, hench us crashing out with a no deal....
Nothing has been set for the 1st of January so when these new GPU cards arrive in our ports, then what? what is the rule? how much stamp duty, tax etc etc do we pay? whats the process?

O and those goods come from fankfurt etc btw so yea how will that work?

See what i mean? A no deal is suicide. We aint getting no gpu's at the turn of the year!!
 
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