Guessing the same could be said for most hardware Cpu's, harddrives, keyboards, mice, cases, Speaker etc
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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Yep and the performance gain is quite poor past £250ish mark. Each £50 gets you another 5% or so performance.
Card at 250, 400 and 550-600 while having >15% or more difference between them is more sensible imo, the current GPU market reminds me of the CPU market a few years back
Soldato
Looking at GPU ranking tables, the 1080ti is around the same performance as the 2080. And the 1080 is around the same performance as the 2070.
So hopefully this means in the next gen that the current 2080ti should be around the same as the new 3080, and the current 2080 should be around the same performance as the new 3070.
In AMD land, they dont have a card to match Nvidia's top end. The 5700XT is about the same as the current 2070 and therefore older gen 1080. And the 5700XT outperforms the previous generation's top cards of the Radeon VII and Vega 64.
We'd perhaps expect AMD's next top card offering to have about the same performance as the 3070 (i.e same as current 2080) but for there to be nothing higher up the range than that.
Does that sound about right?
Trying to figure out where the sweet spot will be.
So I reckon 1080ti = 2080 = 3070
And AMD's new best card will equal 3070 as well.
So hopefully this means in the next gen that the current 2080ti should be around the same as the new 3080, and the current 2080 should be around the same performance as the new 3070.
In AMD land, they dont have a card to match Nvidia's top end. The 5700XT is about the same as the current 2070 and therefore older gen 1080. And the 5700XT outperforms the previous generation's top cards of the Radeon VII and Vega 64.
We'd perhaps expect AMD's next top card offering to have about the same performance as the 3070 (i.e same as current 2080) but for there to be nothing higher up the range than that.
Does that sound about right?
Trying to figure out where the sweet spot will be.
So I reckon 1080ti = 2080 = 3070
And AMD's new best card will equal 3070 as well.
3070 should be a lot faster than a 1080ti. The die size is smaller so should be decent jump in performance.
The 5700xt is only a few % behind a 1080ti right now so their new cards will obviously be much faster than a 1080ti also.
Soldato
hmm i guess the rankings differ depending what tables you look at. The one I looked at showed 1080ti equal to 2080 and both far higher than 2070/5700xt. Then I found another which puts the 2070/5700xt very close to the 1080ti.
I think my future lies in VR performance. I will be looking for a virtual link port on my future card.
I think my future lies in VR performance. I will be looking for a virtual link port on my future card.
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Well put imho and shame on the gaming/hardware press that isn’t calling it out
ITYM
1080p
1080p 120+ Hz
4k 60 Hz
and 4K over 60 Hz.
Other resolutions are down in the noise.
lucky that ALL consoles sacrifice settings, 99% of consoles games are never released with max settings
why would you hope that the 2080ti equals the 3080?
the 2080ti should equal the 3070.
Turing is a terrible architecture price/perf wise.
Soldato
I dont its just what I expected after looking at the league tables. It looked like the card performance just stepped down one notch from the previous gen to the next.
1080ti becomes 2080 becomes 3070 etc.
The last couple of generations have been poor performance increase and also had price increases.
If you look back a bit further though you would see it's normal for a mid range card to come out and be as fast or faster than the previous top end.
Like the 1070 which was as fast as the 980ti.
I think a lot of us here are expecting the 3070 to be around 2080ti performance or somewhere near.
+1
Soldato
Seems that the 2000 series has given some people lower expectations for the next round of cards, so they hope for less.
Just because 1440p isn't a TV standard doesn't mean it's irrelevant, it's actually a really good middle ground for performance & quality.
Associate
I think realisticly the 3070 will be at a point in the middle of 2080 and 2080Ti performance.
I would love 2080Ti performance for $599/£600 in the 3070, but I think that's a little optimistic based on NVIDIAs recent milking tactics.
I would love 2080Ti performance for $599/£600 in the 3070, but I think that's a little optimistic based on NVIDIAs recent milking tactics.
Caporegime
If Big Navi 21 / RDNA2 drops in with >= 2080Ti performance at £600, I guess they won't have a choice.
$599 and not even 2080Ti performance? That would be super disappointing to say the least.
I know what you mean about them milking, just hope they can find other ways of milking. Like I do not care if they charge silly money for their top two tiers, namely the Titan and 3080Ti, but they need to improve price for performance in the lower tiers. I think what they should be doing is milking people who either have a lot of cash and want the best or just plain want the best, but give a decent option for the rest of us.
Soldato
Nvidia need tobe careful with their new cards pricing I can see a lot of people ditching pcs for ps5s and xboxs if pc prices remain high.
According to the Steam Hardware survey, it's a mere 6%. Okay, not quite down in the noise but nearly so. People will jump straight from 1080p to 4K
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This gets said time and time and time again over many many generations and nvidia's sales keep getting stronger and stronger and stronger. Zero truth in it.
The impending new consoles make the difference.