NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Harlequin · 29 Apr 2020 at 17:40

https://www.4gamers.com.tw/news/det...-geforce-rtx-2080-is-lower-than-ntd-16000-now

imginy · 29 Apr 2020 at 17:59

I would happily take a 2080 at £500. When do you think we will see them?

Harlequin · 29 Apr 2020 at 18:01

Thats the price on black friday, so maybe soon? Likewise, i would got for one as well

BigBANGtheory · 29 Apr 2020 at 19:21

2080Ti for £600 would be worth a look.

TNA · 29 Apr 2020 at 19:24

BigBANGtheory said:
2080Ti for £600 would be worth a look.

I would still wait and go 3000 series personally. Buying a 2080Ti even at £600 now would likely lead me to buyers remorse when everyone is enjoying their new 3000 series cards with better RT performance etc. I want something new and shiny

Harlequin · 29 Apr 2020 at 19:40

Will never be a 2080Ti for 600 - more like 1000

Gerard · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:15

Harlequin said:
Will never be a 2080Ti for 600 - more like 1000

It has been down to 999 on a few occasions, the evga black which is a lower clocked chip iirc.

TNA · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:20

Harlequin said:
Will never be a 2080Ti for 600 - more like 1000

Indeed, people will buy them all way before it hits that price point. Most people either have no clue the 3000 series would be coming not so long after (hence the small price drops) or just inpatient so happy to pay.

peterhc · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:23

£1999 for 3080ti I recon

Stu999 · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:28

peterhc said:
£1999 for 3080ti I recon

So how much for the Titan A?

ljt · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:34

Well whatever they release, I've set myself the criteria of +50% performance over my 1080Ti for a max of £600, if I can't get that from either Nvidia or AMD, then I ain't interested.

peterhc · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:38

Stu999 said:
So how much for the Titan A?

the price will be that high due to supply being very limited, god knows but around £2499?

danlightbulb · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:41

ljt said:
Well whatever they release, I've set myself the criteria of +50% performance over my 1080Ti for a max of £600, if I can't get that from either Nvidia or AMD, then I ain't interested.

I'm willing to spend up to £500 myself so I'll get the best card I can for that money as I'm due an upgrade. I just hope its equivalent to the top end from current gen. Problem is that if Nvidia release in the summer we won't know AMDs offering until the winter. So realistically to make an informed buying choice and not get hit by high release prices, its gonna be early 2021 before a sensible buyer should buy.

ljt · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:47

danlightbulb said:
I'm willing to spend up to £500 myself so I'll get the best card I can for that money as I'm due an upgrade. I just hope its equivalent to the top end from current gen. Problem is that if Nvidia release in the summer we won't know AMDs offering until the winter. So realistically to make an informed buying choice and not get hit by high release prices, its gonna be early 2021 before a sensible buyer should buy.

I shall wait until both parties have released their GPU's so whatever date that will be. However I have to be mindful that if I go AMD I'll need a new monitor as my current one is G-sync only and I don't want to lose that functionality. I didn't really want to swap my monitor out just yet though, as I'm waiting until OLED monitors or an equivalent type of tech is released at smaller sizes, so AMD will have to be significantly cheaper and faster to get me to switch for now.

Harlequin · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:48

danlightbulb said:
I'm willing to spend up to £500 myself so I'll get the best card I can for that money as I'm due an upgrade. I just hope its equivalent to the top end from current gen. Problem is that if Nvidia release in the summer we won't know AMDs offering until the winter. So realistically to make an informed buying choice and not get hit by high release prices, its gonna be early 2021 before a sensible buyer should buy.

You might be waiting a while - an RTX 2070 was barely faster than the GTX 1080 at the same money

danlightbulb · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:52

Harlequin said:
You might be waiting a while - an RTX 2070 was barely faster than the GTX 1080 at the same money

yes but other posters on this thread say that they think a 3070 will be 2080ti performance level.

Troezar · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:53

Harlequin said:
You might be waiting a while - an RTX 2070 was barely faster than the GTX 1080 at the same money

It's all about the competition and if AMD can improve that $/frame calculation.

Harlequin · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:54

danlightbulb said:
yes but other posters on this thread say that they think a 3070 will be 2080ti performance level.

If it is it wont be a £500 card then, espcially if AMD cant match it with RDNA2

Quartz · 29 Apr 2020 at 20:59

TNA said:
But Quake and BF5 are worlds apart no?

I don't play BF5 so couldn't tell you.

0h_no_not_again · 29 Apr 2020 at 21:02

KillBoY_UK said:
the 'glofo' 12nm you mentioned is just Samsungs version of glofos' 14nm.

There was defiantly some gains on the node change, just look at Radeon VII which was Vega 64 goflo 14nm die shrink to TSMC 7nm, but in that case they used most the direct power savings on higher clocks.

VII was 15% perf improvement over vega 64, same transistor count.
5700XT is a smidge faster than VII and 2.5B transistors less than VII.

Node change was not the main factor in 5700xt, it was architectural.

Anyway, excuse the AMD chat in here. I think Nvidia going to 7nm will bring a jump in perf, but maybe 10% alone. It should, however, make their huge RTX die sizes more economical and allow them to scale better.