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imginy said:
I wasn't meaning to say anything bad about the oleds, I have never even seen one in person.
Also the q90r is not the best qled seems they made stuff worse the last couple of years especially for games. Aparently they say my 2018 one and the other 2018 fald model are better at most stuff apart from side on viewing angles.

Also the over the top HDR is stunning on borderlands!!!
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They are on another level, pure image quality wise compared to any other TV tech and thats having owned a QLED before also. They just pop a lot more due to the contrast i guess.

They are not free from issues though and it can be a bit of a panel lottery unfortunately.

Both are great types of display however and both have pros and cons, a lot of it is down to preference and usage. If you watch tv and game in the day only then you're unlikely to notice the difference as much for example, and perhaps a brighter image is prefered.

Gaming in dark environment (qled vs oled) shows it quite well. I mean just look at around 2:50 :o:cool:
 
aoaaron said:
I have tried going down the FALD route but they just have so many compromises in PQ.

If you get annoyed by halo effects, blooming, backlight banding, light shining through the black bars in HDR, elevated HDR brightness not what the director intended, blooming subtitles, the game-mode which gimps the dimming aglorithm making the PQ fall apart, the lack of certified gsync support...

Its just not very ideal IMO.

There are a few you-tubers who've extensively tested side by side the QLED to an OLED and its a bucket load of compromises.

I have a FALD and an OLED in the house and every time I look at the OLED, it makes me really regret dumping money into LCD.

If you're on a budget and don't care about having the perfect image, they're good bets but I'd rather opt for a Sony LCD at that point to get access to their best in class motion processing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmumkQqUZDI&t=239s
Thats the Q90R so the best QLED and it exhibits artifacts that the ZD9 and panasonic 902B don't.
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your findings are totally correct. FALD like Samsung QLEDs are actually not that bad at movies, sport, tv shows etc - they aren't the best obviously because the PQ is a fair bit blurrier than an OLED on moving objects and the dimming isn't perfect but it's not bad I would still enjoy watching a movie on one.

But and it's a massive but, I would not use a FALD especially QLED for gaming, the PQ totally falls apart in games, it's nowhere near what the TV can do in movies and HDR gaming is so borderline if I had a QLED I'd just play every game in SDR rather.

you are also correct that Sony FALD don't produce as many PQ issues in games as Samsung QLEDs do, but I find Sonys to be more expensive where I live compared to Samsung so its a trade off, Sony's also aren't very gaming focused so they don't do 4K 120hz and they don't have any VRR/gsync
 
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Grim5 said:
your findings are totally correct. FALD like Samsung QLEDs are actually not that bad at movies, sport, tv shows etc - they aren't the best obviously because the PQ is a fair bit blurrier than an OLED on moving objects and the dimming isn't perfect but it's not bad I would still enjoy watching a movie on one.

But and it's a massive but, I would not use a FALD especially QLED for gaming, the PQ totally falls apart in games, it's nowhere near what the TV can do in movies and HDR gaming is so borderline if I had a QLED I'd just play every game in SDR rather.

you are also correct that Sony FALD don't produce as many PQ issues in games as Samsung QLEDs do, but I find Sonys to be more expensive where I live compared to Samsung so its a trade off, Sony's also aren't very gaming focused so they don't do 4K 120hz and they don't have any VRR/gsync
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You've hit the nail on the head for me and this is why HDR makes me so sad on LCDs...

Half the time I just try and toggle to SDR! It minimises the visible backlight and blooming and the image just looks right. I feel like HDR is really just designed for pixel level control. Otherwise it just makes the entire image look wrong in every scene which isn't bright and uniform.
 
Ok, my verdict and takeaway from this dscussion: buy an LG OLED 48" CX as a monitor when they come down in price. It will game like a dream and with HDMI 2.1 won't need upgrading for years. :)
 
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