NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

danlightbulb · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:37

wunkley said:
I reckon I'd be all over the 3080 but the 10GB vram really bothers me. Did a flightsim 2020 flight last night and it was using all 11GB of my 1080Ti's Vram for a while. A 3080 with 20GB Vram looks like it will be coming though. Hmmmmm

Is it using the 11Gb because it needs to, or because it can?

What about when you present it with 10Gb of very much faster ram? Perhaps it will deal with that just fine as it will be able to swap out the data faster?

chroniclard · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:38

4K gamers running everything maxed may "need" more than 10gb, seriously doubt anyone else does.

McGraw · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:38

Oh great, we've got a load of people bigging up the big prices and talking about $2k GPUS and comparing them to phones.

People buy stupidly expensive phones as they are fashion accessories.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:40

McGraw said:
Oh great, we've got a load of people bigging up the big prices and talking about $2k GPUS and comparing them to phones.

People buy stupidly expensive phones as they are fashion accessories.

Probably they hang the graphics cards around their neck,like the Beastie Boys using a VW badge.

4K8KW10 · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:40

beany_bot said:
I know right. I was all set to buy a 3080 (Im also a flight simmer). but a 700-800 quid card with less ram than an 800 quid card from 3 and a half years ago is totally unacceptable in my eyes.

How would you buy anything without even knowing its performance?

I suspect this release will be a deep disappointment for the industry.
So close to the launch, the hype train is at full speed and still 0 performance leaks.

Hmm.... Only 350 watt and higher TDP

Doesn't look right.

easyrider · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:52

Any rumours on dates?

opethdisciple · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:54

So is it the 31st or the 1st we get a reveal?

danlightbulb · 29 Aug 2020 at 12:57

opethdisciple said:
So is it the 31st or the 1st we get a reveal?

Nvidia's reveal is on the 1st at 5pm UK time.

There's been some leaks and photos yesterday.

LeMson · 29 Aug 2020 at 13:02

Vertigo1 said:
We live in a world where people are happy to drop four figures on a mobile phone so why not a GPU?

They get them on contracts as ppm, bit different?

Darujhistan · 29 Aug 2020 at 13:16

kazuya1337 said:
If you are just gaming Intel are still a better choice

They certainly are, if you also don't mind getting ripped off. Intel every time for absolute best FPS and getting bent over.

Jacky60 · 29 Aug 2020 at 13:47

Journey said:
"The main features of the NVIDIA RTX 30 series are: 2nd Gen Ray Tracing cores, 3rd Gen Tensor Cores, PCI-Express 4.0 interface, GDDR6X memory and a new generation of NVLink SLI (only for RTX 3090)."

PCI-E 4.0 - so expecting to see differences in reviews now covering potentially gimped 3.0 systems to 4.0 systems, will be interesting.

If the 3090 is so powerful why would anyone need SLI??? And why have Nvidia stopped SLI for the lower models? So gimp lower cards with less RAM, end SLI for all but the flagship card and charge the Earth for the privilege.
I'm waiting for Hawaii and Tahiti's kick ass grandchild before spending anything. The power budget and ludicrously big cooler for Ampere suggest Jensen is shook.

Jacky60 · 29 Aug 2020 at 13:49

P.B said:
Cant wait to try 3090 sli on my 1300w psu

I am tempted by 3090 SLI tbh as always love a dual GPU or more setup to my 1600W PSU can stretch it's legs. Must wait for RDNA2 before a decision is made though.

Darujhistan · 29 Aug 2020 at 13:56

wunkley said:
Yeah. I reckon it's a very canny move by Nvidia. Riding the initial launch wave of geek excitement, people with more money than sense will look at the 3080 with 'only' 10GB vram and be 'coerced' towards the 3090. If a 20GB 3080 launched at the same time, very few people would dive in on the 3090 I reckon.

Exactly whaty I was thinking, it's not a very enticing prospect for people who need their ego stroked or need to wave their e-peen about to be thinking "Am I really gonna drop £800 on a card with a pathetic 10GB of VRAM, when there's a card out there with 24GB?"

Samrt move by NV.

Journey · 29 Aug 2020 at 13:56

Jacky60 said:
If the 3090 is so powerful why would anyone need SLI??? And why have Nvidia stopped SLI for the lower models? So gimp lower cards with less RAM, end SLI for all but the flagship card and charge the Earth for the privilege.
I'm waiting for Hawaii and Tahiti's kick ass grandchild before spending anything. The power budget and ludicrously big cooler for Ampere suggest Jensen is shook.

No idea, I was only highlighting the PCI-E 4.0 compatibility to be fair.

Jacky60 · 29 Aug 2020 at 14:00

Journey said:
No idea, I was only highlighting the PCI-E 4.0 compatibility to be fair.

Thanks it was really a question for myself and Nvidia. I'm actually surprised they allow SLI for the 3090 tbh but I guess in for a penny in for a pound! Those
who have money to burn will buy two anyway.

Poneros · 29 Aug 2020 at 14:05

five8five said:
New AMD GPU release to steal Nvidia's thunder.

Sensibly priced alternative to the Ampere cards. 3GB of vram may cause some heated discussions though.

AMD quietly launches Radeon RX 5300 graphics cards

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-quietly-launches-radeon-rx-5300-graphics-cards

The sad part that I've noticed is that the lower-end has completely stalled in terms of improvements. If you got a 480 early then you're still at that level overall in that price range. The mid-range is seeing some action, and the high-end keeps getting more performance (albeit at a higher price), but low-end is just dead. Same tech, same prices, refreshed yearly.

Essentially it means that for people wanting to spend less than $300 they get to see nothing happen in their price range.

Surely this can't continue for another architectural generation?

OG Don Mecca · 29 Aug 2020 at 14:05

I'm hoping that pcie 4.0 is going to make a difference as I literally sold my is 6900k build to fund a 3800x build to take advantage of pcie 4.0 for the ampere cards

My motherboard was on its last legs anyway and I wasn't prepared to drop that kinda cash on old tech to keep it afloat when it finally gives up because the 2011-3 boards are still silly money

beany_bot · 29 Aug 2020 at 14:09

It's obvious why Nvidia killed SLI.
What was the first thing we used to do when Nvidia release a new gen of cards... We have that thought... Hmmm do I get a new card, or buy another second hand "1080Ti" and go SLI?

Well by killing SLI they put that debate to bed. New card is your only option. Mo money for Nvidia!

K1LaW8tt5 · 29 Aug 2020 at 14:24

beany_bot said:
It's obvious why Nvidia killed SLI.
What was the first thing we used to do when Nvidia release a new gen of cards... We have that thought... Hmmm do I get a new card, or buy another second hand "1080Ti" and go SLI?

Well by killing SLI they put that debate to bed. New card is your only option. Mo money for Nvidia!

It always made me wonder how all of a sudden SLI/Crossfire just didn't work anymore or wasn't supported properly in games anymore.
Roll back ~10 years multi gpu setups were very popular. Not just at high end people were pairing up midrange gpus as getting a 2nd a year or so later was a cheap upgrade.

4K8KW10 · 29 Aug 2020 at 14:31

weldon855 said:
It always made me wonder how all of a sudden SLI/Crossfire just didn't work anymore or wasn't supported properly in games anymore.
Roll back ~10 years multi gpu setups were very popular. Not just at high end people were pairing up midrange gpus as getting a 2nd a year or so later was a cheap upgrade.

The motherboards support CrossFire and SLi, so you are free to install dual-GPU in your system.
DX12 will help for the rest.