In fact some of them jumped on it anyway and said gsync wasn't really needed because they couldn't notice tearing
Yer, I remember being told that many times.
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Nvidia Explains Why Their G-Sync Display Tech Is Superior To AMD's FreeSync
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Yer, I remember being told that many times.
Caporegime
It depends on what you believe.
Is it that you believe Free-Sync has a cut off point of 40Hz or have you thought that it may be the display you are looking at?
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Soldato
Yer, I remember being told that many times.
Bah, Bah, Bah see above!
Caporegime
Yeah but the reason it's smoother is because tearing is gone as well.
He believes the market will support paying more for them (and probably right) - nVidia seems to have a substantial market base who when nVidia says jump they open their wallets :|
Personally I think its generally overpriced by around £100.
Soldato
No not really the smoothness comes from the frame rate delivery, what you seeing is what you getting..
Tearing isn't a big issue when you have FPS much higher, and 120hz also hides the effect even more so..
Caporegime
To save you Googling i will answer that for you.
Free-Sync is capable of operating between 9Hz and 240Hz (9FPS to 240FPS)
If you are looking at a display that cuts Free-Sync off at 40 or less FPS and are not happy with that then you need to be looking at a different display.
Soldato
lol 
Caporegime
Yep.
Soldato
Image might look better correct but it dont change how you feel the game, meaning you never feel a tearing in an image.. Having the frame rate given to you at much faster/latency is what is really smoothing out the gameplay. If you felt a screen tear then all them Pro players running 300fps on CSGO much be a stuttering mess
Soldato
Well done on adding nothing to the discussion.. Same as the couple posts above..
You - yep.. OK add why. Explain
Then post a image of complely out of discussion..
You - yep.. OK add why. Explain
Then post a image of complely out of discussion..
Caporegime
Image might look better correct but it dont change how you feel the game, meaning you never feel a tearing in an image.. Having the frame rate given to you at much faster/latency is what is really smoothing out the gameplay. If you felt a screen tear then all them Pro players running 300fps on CSGO much be a stuttering mess
I wasn't talking about high framerates like that, freesync doesn't even work at 300fps...
On a single card in any demanding game you aren't even close to 144fps, tearing appears and when tearing is gone it helps show a smoother image.
Soldato
I agree with him regarding his answer on price or Gsync, the market will bear what the market can bear and while you lot are prepared to pay the extra for an Nvidia GPU and a Gsync enabled monitor it will continue. The only issue I see for Nvidia is while I can see people may be prepared to put up with paying more for an equivalent Geforce card over a Radeon the same number of people won't put up with being locked into a monitor as most of us chop and change between Nvidia and AMD depending on what's on the market.
He gave a week answer on the cons of Freesync, ghosting happens on both types of technology and even if you can detect it's not bad enough to warrant the monitor un-purchasable at least from what I've seen.
He gave a week answer on the cons of Freesync, ghosting happens on both types of technology and even if you can detect it's not bad enough to warrant the monitor un-purchasable at least from what I've seen.
Soldato
Interesting read, but as with anything written by someone who has a vested interest in the subject it's difficult to know how much to read into it. Wasn't sure by the arguments on the Swift being too cheap on page 1, and found it odd he kept referring to AMD's monitors on page 2 when (last I checked) AMD don't make monitors and that's down to Acer/Dell/Samsung/etc.
We do have to remember, we're still really on first generations of both display techs. As with anything, first gen stuff has issues. It's too early to start writing things in stone such as "FreeSync=Ghosting" or "G-Sync=Ultra expensive". Let's let the tech mature a little and see how it goes.
I'm going to be keeping my current monitors until the second or third generation at least. It will be interesting to see if both G-Sync and FreeSync are still mutually exclusive, or if monitors end up supporting both (as optical drives ended up doing for DVD+R and DVD-R), or if one will replace the other and become the new "standard" (as Blu-ray did to HDDVD).
Interesting times ahead.
We do have to remember, we're still really on first generations of both display techs. As with anything, first gen stuff has issues. It's too early to start writing things in stone such as "FreeSync=Ghosting" or "G-Sync=Ultra expensive". Let's let the tech mature a little and see how it goes.
I'm going to be keeping my current monitors until the second or third generation at least. It will be interesting to see if both G-Sync and FreeSync are still mutually exclusive, or if monitors end up supporting both (as optical drives ended up doing for DVD+R and DVD-R), or if one will replace the other and become the new "standard" (as Blu-ray did to HDDVD).
Interesting times ahead.
Fair one and my addition to the nonsensical debate is:
No tearing makes for a much smoother image.
Soldato
You taking about what we see as smooth or what we feel as smooth.. Because seeing and feeling is two different things when it comes to interactive entertainment.
Screen tear would indeed effect how an image looks but it doesn't change how you feel the game.
Caporegime
Who was talking about feeling anything, you're looking at the screen, without tearing it's smoother.
I expected this answer from you anyway as you'll never go back on your word and admit you're wrong.
Soldato
The point was why is Freesync smoother, you said because of no screen tear. That isn't correct.