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Nvidia Explains Why Their G-Sync Display Tech Is Superior To AMD's FreeSync

Bonjour said:
OK, Peter, now tell me... what did you do when the market said 'no' to the $2,000 Titan Z?
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I don't think he can hear ya hunny :D

But spot on. The Z was a failure regardless of the price and I wasn't surprised to see it drop in price like it did and even then, people still didn't want it. Nice card but throttling and not as fast as a pair of Titans was never going to sell well.
 
D.P. said:
Depends what you mean by calibrated.
Sure, you could put the brightness right doesn't and reduce the contrast and the ghosting will reduce but that is irrelevant, that is like saying if you switch the monitor off you don't see any ghosting.


Ghosting is always more apparent with a brighter screen and high contrast fats movements so it is obvious reducing both of those will reduce ghosting.

That isn't a solution just like if you think the colours are wrong on your monitor then switching to black and white is not solution.


There is nothign wrong with these panels, they display ghosting in the scenario when you expect it do occur, freesync just doesn't have a solution to this problem at this time, gsync does.
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It is a solution though. The contrast at stock is far to high on the BenQ. I have put it against test patterns and it shows. Lower the contrast down you gain detail in the white range while reducing ghosting..

It's known fact most displays come out the factory with over done settings.. Reason calibration hardware and software exists.. Also a reason you see reviews of display also showing there calibration results..
 
shankly1985 said:
30FPS what games mate?? Am running Single 290x here @1440p and ripping through games.. Am quite shocked how well the 290x handles 1440p tbh

30fps at 1080p something isn't right there man.
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2 games that I can think of right now are Far Cry 4 and Dying light,. With Fc4 if you choose the quality preset in Raptr it sits under 30 when your taking in the view, How the hell they can call that optimized to be playable is beyond me.

Another is Advanced Warfare , Thinking about it Ghosts is another when the dogs on screen.

Overall I get good fps in most games but there are plenty of titles where that isn't the case and when the freesync monitors like the one I wanted (21:9 LG) are made with a minimum 40 fps cut off it isn't good.
 
All the monitor manufacturers have to do is meet the VESA/DP1.3a specification which they have done, it's not up to them to make changes to improve AMD's Freesync. They were asked to support adaptive sync which they have done.

Maybe the specifications will be updated and a second generation of adaptive sync monitors will fix it but until then the onus is on AMD to provide a fix I would say, especially since they have long touted Freesync as being every bit as good as G-Sync.
 
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Love how he flaps his gums about the 295x2. This coming from a company that had the ludicrously priced titan z, that got released with zero fanfare with no review samples and was basically never mentioned again. :rolleyes:
 
nashathedog said:
2 games that I can think of right now are Far Cry 4 and Dying light,. With Fc4 if you choose the quality preset in Raptr it sits under 30 when your taking in the view, How the hell they can call that optimized to be playable is beyond me.

Another is Advanced Warfare , Thinking about it Ghosts is another when the dogs on screen.

Overall I get good fps in most games but there are plenty of titles where that isn't the case and when the freesync monitors like the one I wanted (21:9 LG) are made with a minimum 40 fps cut off it isn't good.
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Trying out fc4 last night without msaa and some lightning setting I was hanging around 60fps @1440p
 
Gregster said:
Yer agreed and no buyers remorse for me and I was more than happy to pay that after I got it. Prior to purchasing, I felt it was OTT and too expensive but after getting it, my mind was changed and in terms of monitors, it blows everything away I have ever owned.

If anyone asked me what to get and they owned nVidia, I would have no problems advising the Swift.
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exactly how I felt/still feel - it is expensive, I wish it was half the price, but was it worth the money? yes i'd say so
 
humbug said:
Because Nvidia say it is, these people are clueless. they don't have the intelligence to understand anything let alone investigate it themselves and come to an independent conclusion.
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Freesync isn't causing it, but it also isn't solving it either.
Gsync includes additional processing to combat ghosting, so it is a plus point for gsync. Similarly "Free sync doesn't combat ghosting" could be seen as a negative. What causes the ghosting is largely irrelevant, if a consumer has a choice between having ghosting or not, it is going to affect sales, as we've already seen.
 
D.P. said:
I'm not sure they tried to replicate gsync, if they did they would have created their own hardware module. Freesync can solve part of the problems in a very cheap and easy way but have issues in the high and low refresh zones.
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You dont need to have a like for like in order to replicate something. That's the thing with AMD, they always try to be the good guys, bring out this new tech, for it to be cheaper than Nvidia, then ultimately fail at it. You need to spend money to make money and essentially a worthwhile product.
 
shankly1985 said:
Onto the sales speech lol Andy how would you know what is and isn't selling?
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Well they've already cut £20 off the price in under a month. The Swift on the other hand at a higher price, which many people were annoyed at, sold well at its RRP for months before we seen any kind of deduction.

Doesn't surprise me though with AMD losing all that market share there's gonna be no one left to use freesync soon.
 
shankly1985 said:
It is a solution though. The contrast at stock is far to high on the BenQ. I have put it against test patterns and it shows. Lower the contrast down you gain detail in the white range while reducing ghosting..

It's known fact most displays come out the factory with over done settings.. Reason calibration hardware and software exists.. Also a reason you see reviews of display also showing there calibration results..
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It is a solution just like turn off your monitor is a solution.

What if someone wants a bright contrasty screen? They will have to put up ghosting until freesync has driver support to mitigate it, or they can use a gsync monitor.
 
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