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NVidia GameWorks - Is it AMD's fault?

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NVidia GameWorks - Is it AMD's fault?

Quite an interesting video here and he does hit on some good points for me. Watch it before commenting though please.

 
Is what AMD's fault?

It's existence? It being a resource hog? Need more info before watching some guy's desktop for 15 minutes.
 
D3K said:
You kinda missed my point that you need to provide more information first.
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Well if you had watched it, you might of had a point and as the OP requesting you watch it before commenting kinda makes you miss the thread point!
 
Gregster said:
Well if you had watched it, you might of had a point and as the OP requesting you watch it before commenting kinda makes you miss the thread point!
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Aside from the fact that watching video is slower than reading text, anyone else would get moderated for starting threads containing links and no content. :rolleyes:
 
I spent most of the video thinking "get to the point, get to the point" :S ultimately I think the video raises more questions than answers.
 
Wow.....

Assume, assume, assume... What he fails to take into account is market shenanigans on behalf of both Nvida and the software houses. If Nvida pay to sponsor, provide support and have huge market share, software houses are going to go with them.
AMD are not at fault for gamesWorks, Nvida and software houses are to blame for GamesWorks, to says anything else is trolling.
He said it at the beginning... He might not be that impartial in the past and he is not again. To many assumptions, too much speculation and a very poor title for a video.

Good luck with this thread Gregster....
 
Didn't know that ATI was the one who pushed forward Bullet. Quite a lot of waffling though and doesn't really explain "Is it AMD's fault?". Mantle was never in a position to stop GameWorks, that wasn't its purpose.
 
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Yer, he does do some waffling and does get bits wrong (GameWorks can be turned off for either AMD or NVidia and is optional) but I liked his point on Mantle and how they could have implemented that further by having devs "on site". I remember 'Get in the game' as well and vaguely remember reading bits on Bullet being the big PC thing but never really happened.

I didn't comment in the OP as I wanted to see what others thought.
 
Got bored, he started comparing Gameworks to Gaming Evolved and TWIMTBP...... calling Gameworks a developer relations programs then said Gaming Evolved pretty much changed into Raptor...

They guy hasn't got the slightest clue what he's talking, I can't at all be bothered watching to see if he makes any marginally valid points anywhere because the first 5 minutes are a complete and utter waste of time, listening to some guy compare a marketing/relationship program to black box code provided by a vendor.

I'm going to guess that it's blaming AMD for something and defending Nvdia(based off the title of the thread/video) and despite the guy not having a clue what he's talking about posted by Gregster because it's randomly trying to make Nvidia sound like the good guy.

I could guess that he's saying AMD pushed some things so Nvidia had to.

Gameworks is a repackaging of things Nvidia has been doing for the past decade or so(I'm ballparking how old Physx is), it's nothing new, it's not a new movement. AMD's gaming whatever it's called, opengpu or whatever, again it's a new packaging for things they've done for years.

Nothing about gameworks is new, sure Nvidia will come up with new bits of code but the idea and half of what's in it isn't new. If this is remotely about reacting to AMD, he's talking out of his behind.
 
Yea, I'm gonna need some more information before I sit and watch some guys desktop for 15 mins.

I could just make something up involving AMD training ninjas to break into nVidia HQ and create GameWorks, but encrypting the code so no one can optimise for AMD cards, then breaking into developers offices to link the libraries without them even knowing. How close am I?
 
Its the AMD's fault in the same way as when Thunderbird was released, Intel paid companies not to put AMD products in their line-ups.
 
Guy makes an awful lot of sense on what he's actually talking about, and probably isn't what
People are thinking it is just because gregster posted it.

What he doesn't get is Mantle wouldn't be allowed in Nv titles anyway.:D

Gregster said:
Not once does he try and make NVidia out to be the good guy.
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+1

Can't blame them for making assumptions with you though:p
 
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