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Lohse said:
So, uh, y'know how I said it would be abjectly hilarious if I waited 10 months and paid for upgrades only for my GPU to not work? Well, uh. It doesn't work.

Or, rather, 'my computer as a whole does not work with the new GPU in it'. No display, but GPU RGB bar lights up, and pressing power on the case again makes it shut off instantly implies that it isn't even getting through the boot to windows, but the POST light cycle completes fine. Computer's working 'fine' with the old GPU in.

It's likely a fault with the PSU (I've been having some issues but 850W is enough power for the setup), but I'm going to need to find a place in town that can diagnose it. In the event it is the GPU, I hate to do this but tagging @ScottiB and @Gibbo just to ask what's OCUK's replace policy in the event the card is the issue? How long do I have to diagnose?
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https://www.overclockers.co.uk/returns

What you're describing screams short or over-current protection.

Generally my checklist for this would be;
- Make sure that PSU is up to the job (if not sure look for others with same PSU and GPU combination) - alternative source of info https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
- Make sure it's still working when you plug the old card in
- update motherboard BIOS
- remove any riser cable that you may be using
- refit new card
- check all connections
 
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Just seen this morning that the Inno3D 3070ti has gone from £690 (I.e. a straight swap for my current order) to £829.

Assuming this might mean that stock is on the way as the price has been updated to reflect this?

Is there still no chance of a discount on this card for those of us with outstanding orders as I am not currently prepared to swallow the extra there.
 
MeatLoaf said:
Try a mobo bios update. My 3060 wouldnt work in my pc until i did that.
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It's a good suggestion but I last updated mobo bios in april of this year. I appreciate that the 3080Ti launched in June but I doubt it's the culprit. Still, I'll consider it.

ScottiB said:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/returns

What you're describing screams short or over-current protection.

Generally my checklist for this would be;
- Make sure that PSU is up to the job (if not sure look for others with same PSU and GPU combination) - alternative source of info https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
- Make sure it's still working when you plug the old card in
- update motherboard BIOS
- remove any rider cable that you may be using
- refit new card
- check all connections
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Ok, 30 days before falling back to manufacturer warranty. That should be plenty time, thank you.

As to the PSU itself, it's a corsair RM850 which by all accounts should be plenty to power the system (3080Ti, 3900X, 2x16GB of 3600MHz RAM, 2HDD, 2SSD, 2NVMe, capture card, 6 fans, Lighting Node Pro), and it's working again when I plug my old 1660 in, but I suspect it's been having faults since February - I've been having a small raft of issues at startup that correlate with bad RAM that persist when I swap out the RAM sticks, which implied it was either the motherboard or PSU and then putting the PSU under the demand of a 3080Ti resulted in this failure to start.

Cheers for the input, fingers crossed I get it fixed and I'm glad that OC have a pretty robust policy in the unlikely event it's the GPU itself.

Regrettably I didn't think to actually check if the GPU's fans were running when I switched it on, mind - that thing's so damn thick I can barely see the rest of the motherboard!
 
I see the Evergiven
Lohse said:
It's a good suggestion but I last updated mobo bios in april of this year. I appreciate that the 3080Ti launched in June but I doubt it's the culprit. Still, I'll consider it.



Ok, 30 days before falling back to manufacturer warranty. That should be plenty time, thank you.

As to the PSU itself, it's a corsair RM850 which by all accounts should be plenty to power the system (3080Ti, 3900X, 2x16GB of 3600MHz RAM, 2HDD, 2SSD, 2NVMe, capture card, 6 fans, Lighting Node Pro), and it's working again when I plug my old 1660 in, but I suspect it's been having faults since February - I've been having a small raft of issues at startup that correlate with bad RAM that persist when I swap out the RAM sticks, which implied it was either the motherboard or PSU and then putting the PSU under the demand of a 3080Ti resulted in this failure to start.

Cheers for the input, fingers crossed I get it fixed and I'm glad that OC have a pretty robust policy in the unlikely event it's the GPU itself.

Regrettably I didn't think to actually check if the GPU's fans were running when I switched it on, mind - that thing's so damn thick I can barely see the rest of the motherboard!
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Looking at the fans isn't a good test anymore as some GPU's don't spin the fans until they need them, ask me how I know this...well I RMA'ed my old 2060S cuz I thought it was bust as the fans weren't spinning, lol. With that card the issue turned out to be a setting in the BIOS that was interfering with the GPU, it was something to do with the NVME SSD, because both the SSD and GPU are sharing PCIe lanes, took me about 10 days to suss that out.
 
Hey guys remember that ship The Evergiven that blocked the Suez Canal for like 10 days in the spring, well it's due to dock at Felixstowe today, so maybe it's rammed to the gunwales with sweet sweet RTX 3080's, lol. Jeez I'm getting desperate these days . It does carry cargo from the far east, so maybe not that far fetched.
 
yakacm said:
Hey guys remember that ship The Evergiven that blocked the Suez Canal for like 10 days in the spring, well it's due to dock at Felixstowe today, so maybe it's rammed to the gunwales with sweet sweet RTX 3080's, lol. Jeez I'm getting desperate these days . It does carry cargo from the far east, so maybe not that far fetched.
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Sorry to rain on your parade but I think Scotti said before whatever is on that ship destined for overclockers is just some Corsair stuff and also to be frank it doesn’t seem like overclockers are getting 3080s anymore that’s why they are doing the update route rn
 
BONDPlayz said:
Sorry to rain on your parade but I think Scotti said before whatever is on that ship destined for overclockers is just some Corsair stuff and also to be frank it doesn’t seem like overclockers are getting 3080s anymore that’s why they are doing the update route rn
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it's not that we are not getting ANY but the supply had dried to a previously unprecedented level. There are numerous potential reasons but boiling everything down to the most basic motivation, money, Nvidia and the AIBs can make more money making Ti's and that's what we are getting more often than not.
 
ScottiB said:
it's not that we are not getting ANY but the supply had dried to a previously unprecedented level. There are numerous potential reasons but boiling everything down to the most basic motivation, money, Nvidia and the AIBs can make more money making Ti's and that's what we are getting more often than not.
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Ah well ya that makes total sense
 
yakacm said:
With that card the issue turned out to be a setting in the BIOS that was interfering with the GPU, it was something to do with the NVME SSD, because both the SSD and GPU are sharing PCIe lanes, took me about 10 days to suss that out.
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Can I ask you to elaborate on that, sorry; what do you mean by 'sharing PCIe lanes'? My windows install and games both run off NVMe SSDs which are behind a shield on the motherboard, in dedicated NVMe slots, one near the bottom PCIE, the other effectively behind the GPU fans. However, they are both running just fine with my GTX 1660 in.

EDIT: As I understand it, my motherboard's M.2 sockets 'support PCIe 4.0 x4 mode'. My GPU is in the topmost PCIEX16 slot, a capture card in the bottom one and a wifi card in a lower PCIE_X1 slot. Are those all separate bandwidths?
 
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With these update emails are you able to pay the difference or do you need to wait for a refund and re-purchase the alternative card?
 
Lohse said:
Can I ask you to elaborate on that, sorry; what do you mean by 'sharing PCIe lanes'? My windows install and games both run off NVMe SSDs which are behind a shield on the motherboard, in dedicated NVMe slots, one near the bottom PCIE, the other effectively behind the GPU fans. However, they are both running just fine with my GTX 1660 in.

EDIT: As I understand it, my motherboard's M.2 sockets 'support PCIe 4.0 x4 mode'. My GPU is in the topmost PCIEX16 slot, a capture card in the bottom one and a wifi card in a lower PCIE_X1 slot. Are those all separate bandwidths?
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The connector you plug your NMVE SSD in to is connected to PCIe sort of internally, the slots you plug your GPU in to is just a convenient way of making PCIe available to the user, but there is other stuff on the motherboard that is using PCIe sort of hardwired to it, like the NVMe socket you plug your SSD's in to, so there is only so many PCIe lanes available which are shared around all the hardware that needs PCIe. You may find that a more powerful card like the 3080ti will use a lot more lanes than the 1660 you had before. BTW there are 2 types of M.2 SSD, some use SATA and some use PCIe, but both plug directly in to very similar looking slots in the motherboard, but it's the NVMe ones that use PCIe. I am not a technical writer so I may not be explaining this very well, you may be best reading up on it maybe the wikipedia articles or just have a look at something that explains how PCIe works. Hope I haven't confused you even more, and I don't want to lead you down a blind alley, it's just that it sounded a bit like the issues I had, which as I said earlier was down to me having the NVMe drives setup incorrectly, also this was on on intel 9900k, and think the the newer AMD stuff has more PCIe lanes available too, so IDK, good luck anyway hope you get it sorted, I know how frustrating it can be, especially when you don't know if it's the GPU or something on the computer. BTW the question you asked about the sockets being separate bandwidth, they are, sort of. PCIE_X1 uses 1 lane PCIE_X4 uses 4 lanes, PCIE_X16 lanes, so you need to add them up as you can't exceed the total lanes available, PCIe has a certain amount of bandwidth available to it, so the more stuff you have connected the more bandwidth will be used, and you can saturate it after a bit an loose performance, that being said, there are a good few lanes and a lot of bandwidth especially with PCIe 4. I take it you have tested the GPU with your capture and wifi cards removed?
 
I'm in position 18 for an inno3d card, so really would be stupid to cancel or downgrade to a 3070ti, although was tempted and I can't afford to upgrade to a 3080ti. Trouble is my position was only 31 in April.

Just a pity they have other 3080's in stock but won't direct swap. Still think they should swap them for what they have and then sell the ones that were on order themselves. That way everyone's happy.
 
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BONDPlayz said:
Sorry to rain on your parade but I think Scotti said before whatever is on that ship destined for overclockers is just some Corsair stuff and also to be frank it doesn’t seem like overclockers are getting 3080s anymore that’s why they are doing the update route rn
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After I posted that comment I actually found the ships manifest on-line, I wasn't being totally serious anyway.
 
shaggywolfhound said:
I've only heard because I've been arguing with CS. I still don't think the offers are good enough, unless I get to the point where they are mentioning cancellations.
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Legally they can't cancel your order if the product is still on the market cos the moment they took your money they got into legal agreement with you so If they cancel it without your consent you can literally take them on in court. Its different story if the product is unavailable and not manufactured anymore though, so I dont think they can do just mass cancellations cos people would take them to court and they would loose more money, they need to find a way to clear the back orders without any risk.
 
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