I was told the ETA was on the 23rd of Sep, when I called them it turned out they didn't know at all they the ETA was. If not for that date on the page I'd go with competition. They put it there to lure people in. Now I need to God knows how long to get refund, they don't post estimates when my card is arriving, they didn't even let us know any forecast. At this point I might as well ask fortune teller. The should just refuse to take orders when they run out of stock, period. This is scammy tactics. Anti-competition etc.