** NVIDIA GTX 1070: WANNA PRE-ORDER?**

KiwiGaming said:
Therefore do you believe that people like myself should wait 5 weeks? You think AMD will cause demand to decrease causing the price to decrease? I initially wanted to get a card for around £320, although currently looking at this for £410... not sure whether to buy now or not because I would preferably like it for gaming after my exams through the summer as I finally finished YR11.

The card:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-304-ea.html

Any help will be much appreciated.
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Honestly if you can wait 5 weeks then wait because you have nothing to loose.

Even if the cards drops by £30 (I don't think that is unreasonable) you've saved.

The prices are only going to go one way (DOWN) unless something very strange happens with the dollar to pound exchange rate.

AMD are trying to hit an aggressive price point with their RX480 and I believe they will. If they can hit reasonable on shelf availability Nvidia will consider their pricing structure by which time custom 1070 manufacturers will have had time to get more stock out at a cheaper manufacturing cost. Nvidia will also have had time to judge their initial sales and will adjust price accordingly. It may well be that will come in the form of a free game but the result is the same.

It's win win if you are prepared to wait approx. 5 weeks or so.
 
Was thinking of getting one of these as a new toy until Vega and big pascal come out. But I can't bring myself to over pay.

Look at the jump we got from 780Ti to 970 on the SAME node. The 1070 at the current performance should have been priced no more than what 970 was. For me to justify the current cost and to be happy to pay it, the 1070 performance would need to be better than what 1080 offers today.

Will just get a RX 480 or whatever AMD brings to the table. Their price for performance seems a lot more palatable to me.
 
Got to say right now my biggest hope is that AMD can come out with something (possibly the rx480-x/rx490) that is close to if not a match for the 1070. I think some actual competition would benefit everyone right now. The frustrating thing is that if you want to buy a mid-high range gaming PC right now, the 1070 is virtually the only option. 980tis new are still more expensive, and the 2nd hand market has its own pitfalls. in either case its old tech which isn't going to have the same level of support.

Fingers crossed E3 gives us something positive.
 
You watch AMD try and get in on the action and raise prices to match nvidia price/performance. They're not going to totally undercut - most likely raise their prices to match rather than nvidia cutting theirs.

We'll be paying £1000+ for the latest graphics cards in a few years.

Sad times, will wait it out to see what happens.
 
This is my first post on here so go easy on me. I've been building, tweaking, tuning and mildly overclocking PCs for almost 20 years!

I think the prices are reasonable, well the ones under £420, for a card of this performance.

The ASUS 1070 Strix price is just absured. I'm a big fan of ASUS kit but am rapidly going off them! Even their GTX 1080 FE card is more expensive than the others listed here on OCUK.

AMD has been left behind and unfortunately for PC Enthusiasts NVIDIA and AIBs will inflate the price a 'little' as there is no competition in this segment of the market at present. Also I think the low exchange rate with the US Dollar is pushing the price up too.

I'm running an AMD ASUS Matrix 7970 on an R5VE, so am in need of an upgrade so will probably go for one these, not sure which model yet. I will wait for the supply to increase and perhaps the price to stabilise a bit before ordering.
 
I was thinking of grabbing two for an SLI build but sadly these are a bit more expensive than I was expecting. :(

Pricing is messed up at the moment, my advice, WAIT.
 
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mdottwo said:
This is my first post on here so go easy on me. I've been building, tweaking, tuning and mildly overclocking PCs for almost 20 years!

I think the prices are reasonable, well the ones under £420, for a card of this performance.
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Ask yourself if the GTX 970 release at £250-300 was unreasonable then?

We'd already been prepared for an increase in price for the GTX 1070, something around £325-375, a £75 increase in general. Instead we get a £150 increase for the most part.

If we see things through Nvidia propaganda, then we will believe that a GTX 1170 at £600 is reasonable because of its performance, and £750 for a GTX 1270 is reasonable because of its performance, etc etc.
 
KiwiGaming said:
so you think 1070 prices will drop by around £50 once AMD release their line?
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Well...

butcherster said:
You watch AMD try and get in on the action and raise prices to match nvidia price/performance. They're not going to totally undercut - most likely raise their prices to match rather than nvidia cutting theirs.
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A direct answer to the question is... depends. If AMD launches a card that wrecks the 1070 at a similar performance or price-point, then Nvidia may lower prices a tad to remain competitive at that tier. But it's all dependent on what AMD can do, the above is a possibility. I'm not getting my hopes up, I don't expect anything amazing with mainstream GPUs from AMD (besides the RX480 they've already showed).

I'm personally not interested in a 1070/80 level card anyway, neither has the performance I want from my next upgrade so I'm good waiting. I'm just saying that it's going to be interesting to see what AMD try and do now. Considering the launch of the 300 series, the person I quoted may be correct and AMD isn't our hope, but will go along with higher prices in general.

At this rate... I also think it's possible that we'll see a x80ti card go for closer to a grand fairly soon.

Raikiri said:
The Strix is the most expensive air cooled card, it's £480. MSI can do one, but not as much as Asus :p
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Oh wow, it's even worse than I thought lol. The Strix is decent, but usually they don't overclock as well as the MSI cards. The 1070 is no replacement for the 970... it's a 980 replacement for sure, going by pricing alone. Just wait for the 1060 to replace the 970, I bet it'll come close or £200+ at least.
 
I can't see prices dropping on AMDs release. I can't remember if they did before or not though. nVidia and the manufacturers have no reason to drop them, You'll but a MSI version of whatever card anyway so they still benefit.

I'm tied to Nvidia as I have a Gsync monitor to take advantage of and I am waiting for the 1080ti before I decide.

The 1070's are priced where I thought they might be so not surprised. It'll be the cost of a waterblock to add on after that might affect my decision.
 
8 Pack said:
The way nvidia price is logical.

It's always price vs performance ratio when the product launches. This will not ever change while they keep the launch schedule ahead of AMD.
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That's not logical. They are just aware that they can continually fleece their loyal customers who don't really think for themselves. NVidia is constantly screwing anyone over they can, the gaming industry and their own loyal fans are the ones that get screwed the most.
 
TNA said:
Was thinking of getting one of these as a new toy until Vega and big pascal come out. But I can't bring myself to over pay.

Look at the jump we got from 780Ti to 970 on the SAME node. The 1070 at the current performance should have been priced no more than what 970 was. For me to justify the current cost and to be happy to pay it, the 1070 performance would need to be better than what 1080 offers today.

Will just get a RX 480 or whatever AMD brings to the table. Their price for performance seems a lot more palatable to me.
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There wasn't a jump from the 780Ti to the 970. Upon release the 780Ti was faster. Over time nVidia gimped Kepler drivers so it looked like the 970 was an improvement over the 780Ti.
 
spoffle said:
That's not logical. They are just aware that they can continually fleece their loyal customers who don't really think for themselves. NVidia is constantly screwing anyone over they can, the gaming industry and their own loyal fans are the ones that get screwed the most.
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As he said though, it's the WAY Nvidia price that is logical... not the pricing itself, which I agree isn't. This situation has wholly arisen due to the lack of competition, so I think as much flack should be leveled at AMD for letting Nvidia run rampant.
 
The problem is that this is just a paper launch...
Almost no stock anywhere....

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070/

Also, theres no amd competition = high nvidia prices. When amd launches vega, all these cards will go down in prices.

Why would nvidia add +100$ for their reference versions ? Coz no stock so they wanna make extra money while they can coz they are greedy.

1070 is still a "middle" range card. Now nvidia acts like "hey it has titanX performance so we charge you for that" which is absolutely wrong. Its like saying they launched two high end cards, 1080 and 1070, which is not true. So which one is gonan the be mainstream one ? 1060 ? Good joke...
 
fat4l said:
The problem is that this is just a paper launch...
Almost no stock anywhere....

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070/

Also, theres no amd competition = high nvidia prices. When amd launches vega, all these cards will go down in prices.

Why would nvidia add +100$ for their reference versions ? Coz no stock so they wanna make extra money while they can coz they are greedy.

1070 is still a "middle" range card. Now nvidia acts like "hey it has titanX performance so we charge you for that" which is absolutely wrong. Its like saying they launched two high end cards, 1080 and 1070, which is not true. So which one is gonan the be mainstream one ? 1060 ? Good joke...
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Titan X cost £900.
 
Legend said:
As he said though, it's the WAY Nvidia price that is logical... not the pricing itself, which I agree isn't. This situation has wholly arisen due to the lack of competition, so I think as much flack should be leveled at AMD for letting Nvidia run rampant.
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i would blame the customers rather than the competition. if people didnt buy them they would get reduced. put it how you like it is as simple as that.

nvidia dont want to be in the game industry they want to sell to the big boys with the super computers. seems these things will be getting close to the price of super computer soon.
 
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