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Nvidia GTX Titan II Flagship with GM200 Core Is Launching Sooner Than Expected – Ready Within 2 Mont

Well, I have had my Titans for over 18 months and sure they cost just over £800 each but they have done me proud and still sitting near the top of most of the bench threads. Not often an 18 month GPU can still do that :)
 
True about price, wasn't debating that, looking at it purely from a performance POV, you could easily replace Titan with GTX780 OC, for which the R9 290's did great things for the price.

My overall point was if the 290X not only matched the Titan but whooped it by say 20%+ things would be much more interesting especially for the consumer.

Say the Titan II comes out, its 50% quicker then a Titan Black - by comparison ~50% quicker then a 290X all I would see AMD doing is making up to as close to that 50% as possible and not surpass it by any meaningful margin, stick it up cheaper and then think they've made great strides. Even if it meant, for example, the 390X being 20% quicker then a T2 yet costing more would make me happier then matching it and costing less.
 
If GM200 is 50% faster in any situation than a Titan Black I'll drink dogs **** :D ( I know you were pulling numbers out of a hat)


TheRealDeal said:
Amd matched the Titan at half the price though. I agree mostly with what you are saying and Amd need to come out of the blocks with a complete package. The 7970 should have came out with Ghz clocks and the wonder drivers to go with it. This would have given Nvidia something to really think about. The 290x should have came out with a much better cooler. I think Amd are on the right track with Gcn architecture though as they can compete on performance again.
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As he said though, 6 to 8 months later. That's almost an entire generation if any previous step-up be used as an example. I think that was the focal point. Tahiti is another matter though, 680 performance was only admirable in terms of power consumption and drivers.
 
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G-Sync will be with me soon, so might well stick with my Titans for a spell and see how that fairs at lower frames. 2 and a half weeks for the Acer :D
 
yes or no

Do you think this will be available to buy before Christmas ?

yes or no

Do you think this will be 20nm ?
 
He did say 'do you think'

So have a guess, if you're bang on the money you can pretend to be that turd at semi accurate for an afternoon :p
 
bru said:
yes or no

Do you think this will be available to buy before Christmas ?

yes or no

Do you think this will be 20nm ?
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There is no reason it can't be available before xmas.

Again the info on tape outs was ages ago, Gm204 tape out April ish and GM 200 June/july. If in June you'd expect November/December launch. It's 28nm so there isn't anything particularly complex or difficult and certainly no 28nm wafer availability problems.


AS for 50% faster... lol. 100% improvement in DP performance per watt which is what the article was talking about does not, in any way, mean 100% improvement in on paper specs as they suggested, at all, in any way. They are utterly moronic for suggesting such a thing.

AMD have a 1/2 DP performance architecture and that may be the reason that Apple went AMD over Nvidia, and that was a huge part in AMD gaining 15% or so marketshare back in the professional market.

Maxwell(the high end) always had to improve on the 1/3 DP architecture, it will almost certainly move to a 1/2 DP architecture in which case the majority of that improvement will come through DP performance change, not gaming performance change, IE through more shaders/more raw performance.
 
pgi947 said:
He did say 'do you think'

So have a guess, if you're bang on the money you can pretend to be that turd at semi accurate for an afternoon :p
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Exactly, just for the gits and shiggles.


and Thank you DM for keeping the two one word answers down to half a page, :D:p
I we all noticed how even on two one word answers to a Nvidia titan 2 question you still managed to squeeze in a dis for Nvidia and a bigup for AMD ;)

That is a yes and a no I take it.
 
Will be surprised if it (Titan 2) comes so soon. Given the supposed specs for 870/880 though it follows that it will appear.

A new category has been created and NV will run with it.

What's painful is I am now getting interested/sucked in..
 
you really think so Kaap?

Surely that's just a cheaper less powerful titan black? surely they will want to push the envelope not reign it in.
 
Kaapstad said:
My Guess

28nm
Performance slightly less than a GTX 780
Price slightly more than a GTX 780
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No chance. (except for the 28nm bit)

You really think that nearly a year and a half after the 780's release they are going to release a card that costs more but performs worse? That would be business suicide.
 
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