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NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by LoadsaMoney, Oct 4, 2019.

  1. Richdog

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    Agree, and I am a little confused as to why people are having a hard time getting their head around the concept.
     
  2. Calin Banc

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    Set texture to high/ultra, rest to medium and you're fine. You'll do a lot more than any console could do anyway.

    BTW, some test and optimize the games for consoles so good, that they can't even keep 30fps, so yeah, good luck with that.
     
  3. Poneros

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    The memory bandwidth requirements for RT are well known and widely accepted in the industry.

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13282/nvidia-turing-architecture-deep-dive/5
     
  4. Richdog

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    More memory bandwidth always helps performance in general, but is it the only route to significantly better RT performance? :confused:
     
  5. Rroff

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    Yes but there is more to the story than what your post was suggesting. The amount that memory is a bottleneck differs between the different approaches and there are other ways to gain performance increases and optimisations without being road blocked by needing a big jump in memory specification. For instance from that article:

    "The RT Core also handles some grouping and scheduling of memory operations for maximizing memory throughput across multiple rays."

    There is also the effectiveness of utilisation of existing bandwidth - hence one of the reasons nVidia have taken a different approach and AMD are making changes to how their shaders work with memory for their approach.
     
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  6. keyser

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    3070, Control, Cyberpunk 2077, Metro Exodus is my current 'to buy' list. Expensive business these PC things :)

    Actually holding back from playing those games on 5700 XT at 1440p anyway.
     
  7. Things change I've changed

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    Is the 3070 due to be released this year then? I've told my brother he can have my 2070 Super for a song when the 3070 is released so he is desperate to know whether it will be this year or not.
     
  8. tyler_jrb

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    Nothing concrete but i'd have thought so.

    Unlikely nvidia are going to release nothing but high end cards this year.
     
  9. Richdog

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    2070/3070 are considered high end, just not at the top of the high-end. :)
     
  10. pete910

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    So mid then :p
     
  11. diamount

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    That would be the 2060.
     
  12. Things change I've changed

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    I think 2070/3070 are entry card into high end! :p
     
  13. CAT-THE-FIFTH

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    Not the normal RTX3070,that's midrange, you mean the RTX3070TI Super Ultra special edition,right?? :p
     
  14. FoxEye

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    No, apparently that's a high-end card too :p If you ask @Richdog anyhow.
     
  15. Richdog

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    High end doesn't mean just one card, it's a range of performance classification with its own lower and upper end.

    Hell, all of the RTX series including the 2060 are technically high end cards to varying degrees. As enthusiasts, our views of what actually constitutes high end can become warped over time. :D
     
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  16. andybird123

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    I just googled rtx 2060and on the first page of results, every result was reviews saying "midrange" and two retailer websites with links to "midrange gaming PC's". So if all the reviewers and retailers are calling it midrange, what makes ypu think it should be called high end?

    I mean, gaming graphics cards start at £100 and run to north of £1000, so what about a £300 card isn't "midrange"?
     
  17. Richdog

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    I meant by the last comment that in the complete spectrum of GPU's the RTX range is all marketed as high-end and premium by Nvidia... but back to the original focus of the point, the 2070 Super is definitely considered high-end in general as it is built in high-end gaming PC's.
     
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  18. TNA

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    2060 is not high end! Lol.
     
  19. Richdog

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    An 8GB 2060 Super is technically the lowest of the high-end Nvidia GPU's, but it's considered mid-range to enthusiasts.
     
  20. TNA

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    Dude, 2060 is not high end full stop. Nvidia can name it whatever they want, it is just a name. It is not high end. Simple as.

    If their marketing department start calling a 3050 high end next year, will that make it so? Nope, we all know it just ain’t.