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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

So, another week begins ...
Yep. Hopefully customer seevice wasent lying and my wait finishes today or tomorrow.
Who'd have guessed it?! My ETA jumped from 15th to 16th to 17th, and is now currently the 18th. I'd put money on it being the 19th by the time I wake up tomorrow morning!
Yeah thats the routine. mines done that for 3 weeks now
 
FOMO is a powerful force
FOMO over something you could have had for much less 2.5 years ago - ouch. The market has gone so schitzophrenic and close to distopian it's not even funny.

I think it's less of FOMO and more of "I need this level of performance now (because I sold a card early, or I want to play newer games, or I want to play around with AI) and I'm convinced nVidia is the only way".

On a related note, I received and installed my 9070xt Nitro+ last night. Baller card: cool, undervolts/overclocks well, runs everything I need at present. Played 4k Ultra in WHSMII and CP77, no hitches. I know it's running lower FPS, but there's real no discernable difference from my 4090. Will sit on it until I can find a 5090 (or may just end up skipping).
 
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"I need this level of performance now"

I blame the god awful optimisation on newer engines (especially the awful ue5) for my feeling of this. the 10% better graphics arnt worth the 50% drop in performance. Same as why i aint personally a fan of raytracing. It looks good dont get me wrong but id rather performance (current 3080 user so its a bigger perf drop) ninja gaiden 2 black shows this perfectly
 
The sector needs a massive shakeup, but I just can't see it happening. Everyone except the low level consumers love it the way it is.
 
Has PC gaming becoming really mainstream now, hence all the mad people FOMO'ing into buying stupidly gouged GPUs that offer worse price/perf than they could have had the entirety of last year?

I find the entire marketplace bemusing to the extreme. The prices that some people seem to be paying for things are absurd, but there just seems to be a collosal market for people desperate enough to pay the prices being asked....but I don't understand the desperation.
 
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Has PC gaming becoming really mainstream now, hence all the mad people FOMO'ing into buying stupidly gouged GPUs that offer worse price/perf than they could have had the entirety of last year?

I find the entire marketplace bemusing to the extreme. The prices that some people seem to be paying for things are absurd, but there just seems to be a collosal market for people desperate enough to pay the prices being asked....but I don't understand the desperation.

So they can make tiktok videos showing how great they are cos they own a 5090
 
Has PC gaming becoming really mainstream now, hence all the mad people FOMO'ing into buying stupidly gouged GPUs that offer worse price/perf than they could have had the entirety of last year?

I find the entire marketplace bemusing to the extreme. The prices that some people seem to be paying for things are absurd, but there just seems to be a collosal market for people desperate enough to pay the prices being asked....but I don't understand the desperation.

Have a look at OCUK's GPU section, eveything faster than a 4060Ti/7700XT is either out of stock or significantly overpriced.

When the company with 90% marketshare stops making its product, prices will skyrocket, even if demand is exactly the same. If Ford, VW group, and Kia stopped making cars for 6+ months, the price of all cars (new and second hand) from all brand would eventually just increase, even though nothing else was happening in the world.

When people quote 'it's supply and demand' it's not just a saying, sometimes it's that simple.
 
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Have a look at OCUK's GPU section, eveything faster than a 4060Ti/7700XT is either out of stock or significantly overpriced.

When the company with 90% marketshare stops making its product, prices will skyrocket, even if demand is exactly the same. If Ford, VW group, and Kia stopped making cars for 6+ months, the price of all cars (new and second hand) from all brandwould eventually just increase, even though nothing else was happening in the world.

But it is a panic, driven by manipulation of production and stock.

There was constant opportunity to buy a ~4070ti super/4080/7900xtx etc level performing card for £700-£800 last year. Now all of a sudden there is a colossal desperate market for that, simply because the gpu manufacturers have put a shiny new number on it.

People paying the gouged/scalped prices have lost sense.

I’m not sure the car analogy works so well. There is no shortage of gpus. There is just a shortage of them above 4070 super/5070/9070/7900xt levels due to FOMO. A better analogy would be if the manufacturers stopped making premium models i guess. But its still a bit of a shakey comparison.





The issue appears to be that people didn’t bother upgrading last year because they thought they would get better price/performance this year, but it turns out they can't so now they are panic buying worried they will never be able to upgrade. Nothing else explains the demand for the 9070xt at £700+, or the 5070ti for £800+
 
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Is there much point in the £200+ uplift for the higher models vs base models if I am happy to manually OC a card with MSI Afterburner?

No, some base models actually perform better.
The only 2 that have something valid to offer imo are the Astral so you can monitor the current draw on the pins or the MSI AIO, because of the AIO
 
FOMO over something you could have had for much less 2.5 years ago - ouch. The market has gone so schitzophrenic and close to distopian it's not even funny.
That's assuming the people paying over the odds for last gen stuff were in the market to buy last time. It could be first time builders that don't know/have experience and just want their new build up and running.

I will agree that it is crazy though.
 
The issue appears to be that people didn’t bother upgrading last year because they thought they would get better price/performance this year, but it turns out they can't so now they are panic buying worried they will never be able to upgrade. Nothing else explains the demand for the 9070xt at £700+, or the 5070ti for £800+

This is an assumption on shaky grounds, 'people (that) didn't bother upgrading last year because...' only respresents a particular fraction of the market (could be 10, 20, 50%, but certainly not all).

Personally I know I'm not in the market for a GPU at all times of the year, and some years I have no desire to buy a GPU at all.

There are lots of reasons to want to buy a GPU that have nothing to do with FOMO or people losing their mind. The millions of people that bought GPUs in 2024, where nothing was going on, all had a reason, therefore it's not a stretch to assume a similar amount of people have similar ressons to buy a GPU in 2025.
 
Is there much point in the £200+ uplift for the higher models vs base models if I am happy to manually OC a card with MSI Afterburner?

Acoustics (quieter), Temperatures (better cooling), Aesthetics (personal preference), Overclocked (mild overclock set as standard) and Power efficiency (tends to be superior).

These are the general advantages, however, whether they are worth the additional cost is an individual decision.

I have always bought the cheapest, base models in 20+ years of GPUs.

I am now in a queue for a Suprim - the main reason is I don't have the time to overclock, set fans/cooling and I want a GPU which is quiet out of the box - the extra cost is worth it for me! (I also don't like RGB)
 
This is an assumption on shaky grounds, 'people (that) didn't bother upgrading last year because...' only respresents a particular fraction of the market (could be 10, 20, 50%, but certainly not all).

Personally I know I'm not in the market for a GPU at all times of the year, and some years I have no desire to buy a GPU at all.

There are lots of reasons to want to buy a GPU that have nothing to do with FOMO or people losing their mind. The millions of people that bought GPUs in 2024, where nothing was going on, all had a reason, therefore it's not a stretch to assume a similar amount of people have similar ressons to buy a GPU in 2025.
imo the majority of people likely haven't upgraded in quite a while,

10xx 20xx series are what most PC gamers I know have still, they couldn't get a 3xxx series because of obvious reasons, and it was far easier to get a PS5 or Series X at the time which both performed between an rtx 3060-3070.. the 4xxx series would likely have been the generation a lot of people started to consider it, and now in the 5xxx series im seeing A LOT more friends/colleagues considering upgrading their PCs and/or building a new one as the consoles have started to really hit their limits in games, especially UE5 games.

Me for example..

I went from a GTX 1080ti to an RX 7600 because I upgraded to AM4 and wanted a more modern GPU without breaking the bank.. and just now I've upgrade to a 5070Ti
 
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