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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

There is always going to be a limited market for £2k graphics cards, most people will think such a thing is bonkers.
If anything the market is smaller than ever this generation, they are just not stunningly attractive propositions.
I want to buy one, but my initial desperation is wearing thin now, the retailers don’t help, with their iffy practices. The supply is obviously being limited but the demand will end up very low in 3 months, all imo of course.
I just need to be strong enough to hold out for a few weeks. (I probably won’t if I get the chance)
 
I guess it complicates things when businesses are interested as well. I'd imagine what a business is prepared to pay is a lot more than someone who just uses it for gaming.

Professional line wise how much is the nearest equivalent a 5090 could be used for?
 
A lot of people will have had time to come to their senses and decided the price (even at MSRP) to have the best thing is not good value. More watts, more heat, more cost and no significant performance leap - 3090 to 4090 meant fluid 4k gaming. 4090 to 5090 means pretty much the same experience but with higher highs that you have difficulty perceiving anyway. A decent CPU is way better value for improving your gaming experience & getting the minimum frame rates up.

I was interested. I no longer am. I’m sure many who could afford it and didn’t mind wasting the money will now have just changed their minds. On reflection, using 600w to run games is pretty daft.

The 5080 is worth it for people making bigger jumps but only at MSRP to the right kind of nerds.

I wonder if this has a greater and more lasting undesirable effect for Nvidia.
 
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Sibbers said:
A lot of people will have had time to come to their senses and decided the price (even at MSRP) to have the best thing is not good value. More watts, more heat, more cost and no significant performance leap - 3090 to 4090 meant fluid 4k gaming. 4090 to 5090 means pretty much the same experience but with higher highs that you have difficulty perceiving anyway. A decent CPU is way better value for improving your gaming experience & getting the minimum frame rates up.

I was interested. I no longer am. I’m sure many who could afford it and didn’t mind wasting the money will now have just changed their minds. On reflection, using 600w to run games is pretty daft.

The 5080 is worth it for people making bigger jumps but only at .MSRP to the right kind of nerds.

I wonder if this has a greater and more lasting undesirable effect for Nvidia.
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As a 5090 buyer coming from a 4090, I'm upgrading for less FPS drops. 5090 has so much better 0.1% and 1% lows at 4K. It's these you feel IMO, not going from 70 to 100FPS for example.
 
Tbh low stock for a few weeks really isn’t a big deal. If most pre-orders can be fulfilled within 2 months that would be good. It makes sense to me in principle than any new manufacturing processes in China are never going to ‘kick off’ immediately before Chinese new year, would be a bit daft… not that I know anything about the topic!

When most of us are still waiting around after 3 months then yeah, that’s slow.

Someone on YouTube said that the current low stock was a ‘scandal’ - dramatic, much? :p
 
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There is always going to be a limited market for £2k graphics cards, most people will think such a thing is bonkers.
If anything the market is smaller than ever this generation, they are just not stunningly attractive propositions.
I want to buy one, but my initial desperation is wearing thin now, the retailers don’t help, with their iffy practices. The supply is obviously being limited but the demand will end up very low in 3 months, all imo of course.
I just need to be strong enough to hold out for a few weeks. (I probably won’t if I get the chance)
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I'm not convinced it'll be that quick for the msrp models. They're generally in low supply for a long time.

I do agree in principle that the demand only seems high because of such low stock though. The market will be small but they released it at a stupid time with cny and didn't give aibs enough time either.
 
Dave2150 said:
As a 5090 buyer coming from a 4090, I'm upgrading for less FPS drops. 5090 has so much better 0.1% and 1% lows at 4K. It's these you feel IMO, not going from 70 to 100FPS for example.
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very much this for me. i much prefer 'constant' and 'even' over super high fps.
 
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Matthew Hunt said:
Another 12 were just available of the MSI 5090 for £2499..
Seem they are coming in and out quite often.
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I was lucky enough to get one of these within the 30 seconds they were available. It should arrive tomorrow. After basically being a bit obsessed since the 30th at 2pm, I've been smashing F5 on about 20 websites constantly at all hours of the day, and setting up all kinds of mechanisms for early warning. However, I've always been pipped at the post until now. In the end, I succumbed to subscribing to a bot service to give me a fighting chance. If you can't beat them, join them! My wife was also getting fed up with all this GPU talk, so it was either get one, or get divorced! :cry:

I'm coming from a 1060, so a well overdue upgrade and one that I want to last a few years, hence the 5090.

I have other pre-orders in place, in addition to a physical Gaming Trio 5080 in-hand. I won't be looking to profit from any of those, merely cancelling/returning once I have the 5090 here with me safe and sound. I'll let you know my thoughts once the new PC is built and everything is fired up.

In the meantime I fully intend to downgrade my level of obsession on this subject from 10 to a mere 3-4, purely so that I can concentrate on other things for a bit. :cry:

Good luck to everyone still in the hunt!
 
Kalibre46 said:
I was lucky enough to get one of these within the 30 seconds they were available. It should arrive tomorrow. After basically being a bit obsessed since the 30th at 2pm, I've been smashing F5 on about 20 websites constantly at all hours of the day, and setting up all kinds of mechanisms for early warning. However, I've always been pipped at the post until now. In the end, I succumbed to subscribing to a bot service to give me a fighting chance. If you can't beat them, join them! My wife was also getting fed up with all this GPU talk, so it was either get one, or get divorced! :cry:

I'm coming from a 1060, so a well overdue upgrade and one that I want to last a few years, hence the 5090.

I have other pre-orders in place, in addition to a physical Gaming Trio 5080 in-hand. I won't be looking to profit from any of those, merely cancelling/returning once I have the 5090 here with me safe and sound. I'll let you know my thoughts once the new PC is built and everything is fired up.

In the meantime I fully intend to downgrade my level of obsession on this subject from 10 to a mere 3-4, purely so that I can concentrate on other things for a bit. :cry:

Good luck to everyone still in the hunt!
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If it's not against the rules are you able to provide what services you used for early alerts?
 
Dave2150 said:
As a 5090 buyer coming from a 4090, I'm upgrading for less FPS drops. 5090 has so much better 0.1% and 1% lows at 4K. It's these you feel IMO, not going from 70 to 100FPS for example.
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I don’t doubt it’s well worth it for your use case, but for the vast majority it is a huge amount of money for not a particularly good product, however I will probably get one if I can because I like new toys.
However I am retired with no debts and a guaranteed income as long as I’m alive (albeit not that large) so I doubt many people in the market for this type of thing are in my position either.

If you look at the 9800x3d launch, they were impossible to get hold of and the prices shot up. Now the prices are dropping and they are easy to find.
 
Is the 5070 going to be at least faster than the 4070 super or is it looking less likely ? I'm seriously worried that the 5070 won't beat a 4070 super and we gonna have to wait yet again for another super refresh.
 
aminegriffy said:
Is the 5070 going to be at least faster than the 4070 super or is it looking less likely ? I'm seriously worried that the 5070 won't beat a 4070 super and we gonna have to wait yet again for another super refresh.
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We have a pretty good idea of the relative per core performance in the 50 series, and it looks like the 5070 is going to be slightly slower than the 4070 super. If that's the level of performance you're interested in then I'd mentally prepare to wait it out as 4070S prices will probably go up after reviews drop.

I'd say consider buying a 4070S now, but the prices haven't really moved since launch so if that price/performance was something you were interested in I assumed you would have bought one back then
 
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