NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[TheCarcassKing]

Will update in the morning with photos to help you make a decision!

link to photos of cable
Wasnt sure how to post photos to here lol so made a tweet, tagged Jay to see if he would respond (doubt) but worth a shot either way. Hopefully yours come out okay when you check, im also sending these photos to NZXT to see if they will send a replacement.

 

[Jasseh]

link to photos of cable
Wasnt sure how to post photos to here lol so made a tweet, tagged Jay to see if he would respond (doubt) but worth a shot either way. Hopefully yours come out okay when you check, im also sending these photos to NZXT to see if they will send a replacement.

Just opened up the box for my RM1000x to check it. Cable "looks" fine to me right now, think I'll have to do a plug in / unplug and check test when my 5090 eventually arrives though.

 

[TheCarcassKing]

Just opened up the box for my RM1000x to check it. Cable "looks" fine to me right now, think I'll have to do a plug in / unplug and check test when my 5090 eventually arrives though.

Thats not actually a bad idea tbh, could do the test quicker thinking about it and plug it into the psu itself, i dont think there is any difference between each end so should be fine to check both. Trouble is aswell, the more its plugged/unplugged the more that can have an affect aswell, i might try it out tomorrow when im more awake but only doing it the once.

 

[Rawr]

Well, I can't find my other PSU cables oddly enough. I've no idea why truth be told, I've checked all my usual spots. Typical that though.

That puts me in an awkward spot.

Edit: Nope, found them in a kind of silly spot somewhat out in the open, just covered up. Even more typical.

 

[Grim5]

Engineer who works for an "nvidia competitor", but used to work for Intel and others:

It is my opinion that any card drawing more than 375W per 12VHPWR connector should be avoided. Every single 4090 and 5090 that only uses a single connector is included, and the 5080 is borderline at 360W and shouldn't be overclocked with a higher power limit.

I would like to see any cards without the minimum protections named above recalled as dangerous and potentially faulty. This will not happen without extensive legal action taken against Nvidia and board partners. They see no problem with this until people make it their problem.

If you even suspect your card may be at risk, return it and get your money back. Spend it on something else. You can do a lot with 2 grand and a bit extra

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1io4a67/an_electrical_engineers_take_on_12vhpwr_and/

 

[cyclonus10]

Why would Nvidia launch a 5080ti when they got people paying up to £1800 for a 5070 5080

Because in 12 months time the price of the 5090 will increase, the 5080 will drop and they will just launch the 5080ti at £1800. They know people will pay it, sadly.

 

[Richdog]

Wow so much negative coverage of the 12VHPWR connector... do we think they will make a hardware revision this gen to address it?

 

[Murphy]

They had a chance to revise it with the 50 series when the 4090 FE's had the problem but they choose not to so i doubt it.

Which seem all the more strange when you consider there's a class action law suit against them for selling a dangerous product.

 

[ProStreet]

Just got a 5090 gaming x trio, coming tomorrow!

 

[Nitefly]

link to photos of cable
Wasnt sure how to post photos to here lol so made a tweet, tagged Jay to see if he would respond (doubt) but worth a shot either way. Hopefully yours come out okay when you check, im also sending these photos to NZXT to see if they will send a replacement.

From the photo it does seem like the pins are different height… I’m not sure whether that’s enough of a variance to actually cause an issue though - hard to say until we get a little more info on the subject.

Checking out my own in a bit.

 

[john_smith]

This is a good video:

 

[Trox]

So people here are basing this on one Corsair cable on Jays video that the whole of the Corsair PSU line up is at fault?

The cases so far that I’ve seen were supplied from non Corsair PSUs, although I’m not looking in to it that much so any links are appreciated

 

[Nitefly]

So people here are basing this on one Corsair cable on Jays video that the whole of the Corsair PSU line up is at fault?

The cases so far that I’ve seen were supplied from non Corsair PSUs, although I’m not looking in to it that much so any links are appreciated

No.

Corsair have generally been considered a reliable brand. They are one of the only manufacturers that’s had clear messaging on the subject and their infographic saying “these cables are the same between gen 1 and gen 2” is commonly referred to as showing that’s the case. Hence, we have had high confidence in Corsair.

Community confidence in Corsair has now been knocked because of demonstrable manufacturing defects with a Corsair ‘gen 1’ cable.

It doesn’t mean that Corsair have misrepresented anything (unlike, say, Moddiy) it just infers that “nobody is 100% safe” even if you’re relying on a ‘premium manufacturer’. So it’s frustrating / disappointing, personally.

 

[Cosimo]

Ignore

 

[Matthew Hunt]

I have the GEN 1 Corsair cable as use it with my 4090.
Will look into buying a different cable in preparation of my 5090 coming.

Is there any recommendations for cables? Or just buy the latest Corsair ones.

 

[MrE333]

No.

Corsair have generally been considered a reliable brand. They are one of the only manufacturers that’s had clear messaging on the subject and their infographic saying “these cables are the same between gen 1 and gen 2” is commonly referred to as showing that’s the case. Hence, we have had high confidence in Corsair.

Community confidence in Corsair has now been knocked because of demonstrable manufacturing defects with a Corsair ‘gen 1’ cable.

It doesn’t mean that Corsair have misrepresented anything (unlike, say, Moddiy) it just infers that “nobody is 100% safe” even if you’re relying on a ‘premium manufacturer’. So it’s frustrating / disappointing, personally.

We also don't know if this is just Jay getting unlucky with a cable that had poor quality control and not representative of the overall picture.

I bet if somebody did a deep dive into all the 4090 meltings to find out what psu's people were using that there would be no clean shirts purely due to how crap of a connector it is.

 

[Murphy]

So people here are basing this on one Corsair cable on Jays video that the whole of the Corsair PSU line up is at fault?

The cases so far that I’ve seen were supplied from non Corsair PSUs, although I’m not looking in to it that much so any links are appreciated

Basically the cables are where the problem manifest but they're not the root cause, they're being asked to operate way outside of their intended use.

 

[Cosimo]

I have the GEN 1 Corsair cable as use it with my 4090.
Will look into buying a different cable in preparation of my 5090 coming.

Is there any recommendations for cables? Or just buy the latest Corsair ones.

I'm sticking with Corsair and have a GEN 2 coming for my 5090.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

This is just a wild guess / hunch… but I’m wondering whether your issues in part have anything to do with display stream compression (DSC)… which is known to be a problem with Nvidia GPUs - it could be a new variant of existing DSC issues.

It’s interesting that both ran smoother with the AMD card… and I’m wondering whether you used the same monitor in both rigs?

Have a google for Nvidia / DSC issues and also see my recent posts here.

I hadn't considered that but will have a play about later. Wouldn't that affect all games though? It's so odd because CP2077 at around 90fps (with FG, so not a true value) is slick, yet HD2 at the same FPS in certain levels just isn't.

I'm using the same monitor for both via the HDMI 2.1 port, though I did try the DP connection without success. I'm yet to try hooking it up to my S95B TV (which is certified G-Sync compatible) to see whether that makes any difference, though I can't imagine it will as VRR clearly works in the games I've tried when monitoring the refresh rate.

Thanks for the suggestion though, will look into it.

Hmm, just read that the MAG monitor doesn't use any DSC, so is capped to 144Hz at 10-bit over the DP connection.

 

[Ascendancy]

Corsair's response.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1iovz6i/corsair_cable_pins_cause_for_melting_concern/mcnjpig/