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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion
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Maybe Nvidia will have found all those missing ROPs by the time cards are actually available? 
I'd hope that with Chinese New Year well and truly over and production presumably back up to speed, we might start seeing a few more updates on supply this week.
But as ever, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
Its been over for over a week though at this point. You'd have hoped they'd have already had some info from companies.
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This was part of the reason I was considering cancelling my pre-order last Friday. If I hadn't been at a funeral that day, I wouldn't have my new card right now.
Hope stock starts showing up for everyone else soon...
lets be real. When the xsx launched I bought 2. I logged onto currys (naming as don't think OCuk sell consoles so not competitor for this) and was over 15000th in the queue and still had 2 delivered on launch day. Currys not the only shop..every department store with an eletronics dept would have them too as well as toy shops such as smyth's etc... that's a queue...PS5 outsells xsx by far so assuming they had loads as well when they launched (and yes they sold out but at least they had a massive amount at launch, not a paper launch, and they kept rrp even with massive demand..)...a queue of 100 people for a 5090 is not a long queue, esp with the limited no of places selling them..having wait 6 months to get a card if you 100th in queue is scandalousDon't understand
What I do understand is that the pre-order queues are long
Nvidia were a month ago the most expensive company in the world, with a mkt cap of over 3 Trillion...their launch is a shambles and reading someone is 14th in the queue and a month later has seen they've gone up to 10th because 10 cards have been delivered but they've dropped 6 places for system builds...??really..biggest company in the world and they can get their aib manufacturers to deliver 10 cards in a month??...what, they make them in a garage round the corner and thats the best they can do for the largest company in the world (mkt cap)..It's a joke
there aren't that many computer shops in the country compared to retail shops that sell consoles....If microsoft can supply a shop like currys with 50,000 units for launch day at rrp and multiple other shops too while still selling previous get at the time at the rrp...so should nvidia be able to...the fact that they don't while they have 85% market share and drip feeding supply to maintain their 70% margin, is at the very least monopolistic tactics to influence price and scalper activity
if it was google selling phones like that, they'd have so many lawsuits etc...but nvidia..nothing
it's outrageous in my view...this cloak and dagger ****, no idea how many cards are actually available and drip feed on supply to maintain scalper prices, not making sure aib's sell at reasonable prices and having nothing at rrp, while stopping production of previous cards to also drive up those prices so lack of choice
what I'm saying is they don't behave like a big tech company, providing plenty of product at a fixed price...rather they behave like a black mkt bucket shop, selling at overinflated prices to line their pockets, and rrp be damned...they say they have one and then ignore it
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I mean Nvidia is a small company that has a market cap far beyond its size due to the AI boom, and this kind of stuff shows that. It's not even just consoles, Apple manage to do launches fine as well. I'm not an apple person, I prefer Android due to it being open, but I've got friends who've pre-ordered phones for day 1 and they've not had to go out of their way to get them. When I've pre-ordered Samsung phones in the past I've not had issues getting it launch day either.
That's a really good point. I don't think I've ever seen a niche company become a global mega-corp quite so suddenly. It does partially explain their frequent inability to find their arses with an atlas.
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Seems to have been a drop at a competitor which brought down their whole website.
£2499 for ASUS TUF
I went all the way to the payment screen and changed my mind - Not paying £2500 for a 5090 - Easily could have had one.
£2499 for ASUS TUF
I went all the way to the payment screen and changed my mind - Not paying £2500 for a 5090 - Easily could have had one.
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to an extent..they've had massive mkt share for years now..plenty of time to get their act together....they just haven't, and their mkt practices are as i say, back shop alley black mkt style...you can't have a company that controls 80% of mkt share of global gpu and say they're a small shop and years down the line saying that their 'paper' launches are due to them being a small shop....they're aren't and haven't been for a fairly long time...long enough to sort supply issues out
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending them in what I'm saying. I think they should act more their stature. Just explaining why this happens, and they'd rather just sit on their profits instead of expanding in a way that allows them to keep up with demand relative to their size. That all said the TSMC situation doesn't help, we need more competition there too.
And more competition in wafer fabrication machinery as the only (majority?) supplier of EUV equipment is ASML so WRT Nvidia GPU we have a monopoly, on a monopoly, on a monopoly.
But then what you going to do when a single EUV machine can set you back $350m, and a single fab can cost upwards of $20bn.
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Has anyone from OCUK got a Zotac 5090 Solid? The normal one.
Rumours on reddit are that people got some.
Rumours on reddit are that people got some.
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One person had one ship out on Friday. No idea how they determine the order though, I put my order in some seconds before them and got nothing, maybe my credit card took slightly longer to process, I dunno. Either way I'd presume they can't have gotten many at all for a situation like that to happen.
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Thanks - So it seems some are coming in.
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goddamn, Nvidia flooding the mktwas actiually curious about fab production..so $20B in US, $10B in far east due to xheaper labour, better supply chain and less red tape. US and Europe really need to get their act together to compete
US fab construction costs twice as much, takes twice as long as Taiwan
U.S. and Europe need to adopt new construction techniques to be competitive.
Exactly same with me, changed my mind last second. It wasn't even the OC model and the quality of the Tufs are much lower on the 5000 series compared to previous gens