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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

GoRedwings19 said:
@untitledshot First off let me apologise for earlier I was at work and it was busy so could not respond properly. This is not just a 5090 series issue but I had the same issues with a Msi suprim liquid 5080 and Msi gaming trio 5080.

So I have 3 monitors but I only actually use 2. My preferred method of connection is obviously displayport for the higher refresh rate. BUT because of the 5 series issue with display port I also connect with HDMI via my igpu to the same monitor not to mention my desktop hi fi amp has upscaling, HDMI support etc and I like to connect via HDMI and then to my monitor. All from one PC. My biggest issue far worse than the displayport bug is if I have to go into bios which I constantly need to do as I am always trying out different settings to get the most out of my PC. Trying to work out which input I need to go to is a nightmare. And if the bug triggers well I am just jack poop out of luck. So now as much as pains me to do this I switch to one monitor per PC.

I did have a workaround but then I found another annoying issue with dual monitor setups. My fans stop doesn't always fan stop. I know it will always stop when the monitors go to sleep. And it will do it when it is on the silent bios if it is idle kinda. But on the performance bios it does what the F it likes. I am sure a bios flash or heaven forbid Nvidia addresses the issue.

I had a similar display port issue with the 4090 but I found out if I whipped out the display port lead out when it was on I could get into bios via the igpu via HDMI.

Rather than waste any more time on this bug/annoyance I am just going to hook up all my PC's to all my monitors individually. I have too much tinkering to do with out being side swiped with Dog poop bug
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Didn't the latest Nvidia drivers fix the bug? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/242141/

Fixed General Bugs
  • PC may boot to a black screen when connected via DisplayPort with certain monitors [5131002]
 
An oddity I noticed with the 5080 I had. Hitman would crash reliably in the same places in-game IF any overclocking tool had applied ANYTHING. Even set back to standard clocks. It seems like the card was being put in some kind of erroneous state.
 
Rifte said:
Still haven't had time to really stretch my 5090.......when I purchased it I was deep into some old school Neverwinter Nights......so only ran it through a few ingame (Monster Hunter Wilds etc) benchmarks etc.

Rops are fine......zero coil whine (that I can hear anyway)......and I refuse to let myself get stressed over a melting connector.

I need to try and enjoy this thing, not constantly worry that pushing it might do something bad.
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Mad that you have to worry about a melting connector in the first place though!
 
@Richdog Well it still happens than when the first 5090 drivers came out using dual monitors. It still an issue. And as frustrating as that is. I just went back to using a single monitor for the time being. What nvidia says and my own personal experience couldn't be further from the truth.
 
SeeNoWeevil said:
An oddity I noticed with the 5080 I had. Hitman would crash reliably in the same places in-game IF any overclocking tool had applied ANYTHING. Even set back to standard clocks. It seems like the card was being put in some kind of erroneous state.
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Have you noticed for different games that your clock is different. One game could be at 3.2ghz and another at 3ghz. What happened to the good old days when you set your clocks to a certain speed temps permitting it would stay around that. It like Dynamic clocking on the fly for each individual game.
 
Potluck1112 said:
Mad that you have to worry about a melting connector in the first place though!
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I've not seen any new melting connector reports since the reports and youtube videos we got in the first week or two.

Have they continued happening after people got scared and made sure they were using the correct cables?
My cable/connectors are no warmer than the air around it, even while under load for an extended amount of time
 
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Were there any actual 12V-2x6 -> 12V-2x6 ones that melted or was it just ones using either custom cables or 12VHPWR ones?

They obviously shouldn't melt either way but not sure it's mega problem if you have the latest and greatest.
 
Rusty0611 said:
Were there any actual 12V-2x6 -> 12V-2x6 ones that melted or was it just ones using either custom cables or 12VHPWR ones?

They obviously shouldn't melt either way but not sure it's mega problem if you have the latest and greatest.
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It's hard to say really as the amount of people who have both a 5090 and an ATX3.1 PSU is probably tiny.
 
wunkley said:
Unless there's a total re-design and reduction of power usage I can't see me ever getting a 90 class card again. The 5090 is just......silly.

Pretty happy with my 5080 though I have to say, especially undervolted and overclocked. Apart from the ****** drivers and over paying for it that is :rolleyes: (MSI Gaming Trio)
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How did you undervolt, using the curve or fixed voltage? Yet to play around with that.
 
Kirby Wurm said:
How did you undervolt, using the curve or fixed voltage? Yet to play around with that.
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Afterburner curve. Done it for years on last few gens of GPU. It's particularly good on the 5080.

My daily driver curve/ profile is a modest 0.91v at ~2950Mhz on the core (plus 1200 on the memory slider). This runs at ~70W less power than stock and has a real world performance boost of about 6% vs stock. You can push it harder obvioulsy but the FPS gains aren't huge in relative terms so I'd rather save on power and heat, whilst still having better than stock performance.

Undervolt curve = less volts, less power draw, less heat produced, and better performance than stock. Any naysayers need to try it.
 
Subliminal Aura said:
As mentioned....^

Anyone know how to get past the 116% power limit and overclock the memory further ?
Is this a vBIOS / physical restriction or can it be done with software.

This card can definitely clock higher :eek:
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Let me help you with this for dear Sir.
I have yet to find a way to undervolt or to increase the power limit but noticing the Chinese have higher memory clocks I started to experiment with GPU Tweak and Afterburner and here's the result

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You can surely push the memory and GPU clocks further

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Clock frequency                 3,240 MHz (2,295 MHz)
Average clock frequency         3,180 MHz
Memory clock frequency          2,125 MHz (1,750 MHz)
Average memory clock frequency  2,103 MHz
 
Am I crazy for pulling the trigger on a <£600 5070 to keep me going? My primary use is iRacing which has quite a unique Nvidia specific "simultaneous multi projection" feature for triple screens, not having that on AMD just takes away any advantage to grabbing a 9070. 3070 has actually held up really well, especially considering it's driving 7680x1440, but I'm starting to dip down to 60s and 70s now at race starts with more and more getting turned off. VRAM is clearly an issue with bad textures on other cars now where it wasn't an issue before.

I know it's not a long term option, but if I can shift my 3070 for a couple of hundred quid then it's a cheap upgrade for hopefully a decent boost, and let some of this madness blow over. I had one in my basket when stock appeared at OCUK last night but didn't pull the trigger, wish I had now.
 
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deko said:
Am I crazy for pulling the trigger on a <£600 5070 to keep me going? My primary use is iRacing which has quite a unique Nvidia specific "simultaneous multi projection" feature for triple screens, not having that on AMD just takes away any advantage to grabbing a 9070. 3070 has actually held up really well, especially considering it's driving 7680x1440, but I'm starting to dip down to 60s and 70s now at race starts with more and more getting turned off. VRAM is clearly an issue with bad textures on other cars now where it wasn't an issue before.

I know it's not a long term option, but if I can shift my 3070 for a couple of hundred quid then it's a cheap upgrade for hopefully a decent boost, and let some of this madness blow over. I had one in my basket when stock appeared at OCUK last night but didn't pull the trigger, wish I had now.
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It's a functional GPU, nothing wrong with that. Plenty of people are using 4070 Super's or 4070 Ti's right now, and world hasn't exploded.

The great thing with NVIDIA is the progress gen-on-gen is so slow, you'll probably be able to sell it for £500 in two years :cry:
 
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Yeah, the 5070 is not my first choice but in this climate, you grab what you can get hold of

Are you 100% sure that the 9070 won't handle your triple display ? If it were me I would hold off for the 9070/XT restocks, they are far better cards than the dog **** 5070 in everything but RT which I highly doubt you use in iRacing
 
Going by benchmarks that people have done on the iRacing forums, pretty much yeah, the lack of SMP kills it. It would still be an uplift of the 3070, but it's quite significantly behind even the 5070 because of that 1 bit of strangeness with iRacing specifically. Only other thing I do on my PC is a bit of MSFS and only at 3440x1440, at least there I can benefit from a bit of DLSS4 also. I think I'm just going to go for it, as you say @SuperElectric I'll get reasonable money for it even if it last me a year.
 
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