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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

Rusty0611 said:
Undervolting is for wimps. Max performance! :D

(Mine is also pulling fewer volts than would otherwise normally be required for my 3250 MHz core clock)

Haven’t gone above 500W so far so I’m alright with that. Might try and tighten it up and go for more overclock when I’m back home.
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Just tried a dirty overclock for the first time +300Mhz core +3000Mhz memory

Compared to my usual undervolt (.895/2827), with the overclock in Steel Nomad the card ran 3 degrees hotter, used on average 70w more power, clock was at 3172Mhz, and Nomad score improved 1.9%.

Tried several games (loading in at the same point) and saw no difference in actual FPS between overclock v undervolt.
 
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My Zotac RTX 5090 Solid OC arrived unexpectedly today, good job I was in!
 
Awahwah said:
Could you take a pic of your curve?
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Here it is, very similar to the one from the guide just slightly adjusted for the fact the zotac base curve was different.

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Maybe there's a more optimal one for cards with a lower base curve, but I haven't really spent too much time with it. I've not found anything crash with this curve as of yet either way.
 
Rawr said:
Maybe there's a more optimal one for cards with a lower base curve, but I haven't really spent too much time with it. I've not found anything crash with this curve as of yet either way.
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I've had enough now, a lot of fiddling about for little extra benefit. Sick of looking at Steel Nomad and curve editors over the last 2 weeks, just enjoy your card lol. Don't want to end up like those nutjobs over on Overclock.net
 
Varys said:
Just tried a dirty overclock for the first time +300Mhz core +3000Mhz memory

Compared to my usual undervolt (.895/2827), with the overclock in Steel Nomad the card ran 3 degrees hotter, used on average 70w more power, clock was at 3172Mhz, and Nomad score improved 1.9%.

Tried several games (loading in at the same point) and saw no difference in actual FPS between overclock v undervolt.
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Every single game benchmark I have done showed gains of 5-8% in performance running the overclock vs stock. And stock on mine is higher than most cards. Need all the frames @ 4k/240
 
Absolutely Clueless said:
Really? On a 5090? I've not seen gains that large in any review.
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No overclock, boosts to like 2950 - 3000 ish:


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And then with the overclock where it boosts to around 3200-3250 and +2000 on the memory:

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Similar (generally 5-6% gain I have found) on other games though MH:W is the best one for getting more performance out the overclock.

Steel Nomad, I need to undervolt way more than I am currently doing to get more headroom but overclock increased mine from just under 14.9k to 15.3k, so similar to Cyberpunk and about 3% gain. Don't have screenshots unfortunately in my ShareX folder and have uninstalled it now so can't be bothered to run it again. But if I have the game, then happy to run other benchmarks.
 
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Absolutely Clueless said:
Really? On a 5090? I've not seen gains that large in any review.
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Stock is just bad. Really feels like a rushed launch when looking at everyone's stock frequency curve.

Anyway, the difference in the curve is not based on the specific SKU, but on the specific silicon.

My FE did 2827 at 0.89. The Vanguard needs 0.895 for that. And I had many reports of people with the FE needing more than 0.89 and viceversa.

At the same time, even after flashing the Aorus Master bios, my Vanguard was still limited at 2827 at 0.895. So whatever it is, it's something "above" the vbios.
 
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TNA said:
You got a 5080? :D

Thought you was all about AMD these days. Didn't you have a 7900xtx? :p
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I did but sold it off with no plans of getting a 5000 series card but then I had the chance of getting one at a decent price so wanted to try it out as I quite like Nvidia's tech i.e DLSS, DLAA and various software features, Quite pleased so far.
 
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GoRedwings19 said:
I got a 5080 at the beginning. An Msi gaming trio and a Suprim liquid 5080.
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Same here - MSI 5080 Gaming Trio. Overpaid for it by about £100+ looking at current prices, which irks me. It's a very nice card but aesthetically I really prefer FE models and always have done. FE's are Just too hard to get though.
 
I've been looking at people listing cards on ebay. Almost all of them are also trying to sell trainers and pokemon cards...

It's nice to see those trying to sell 5070 cards won't make any money.
 
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Rusty0611 said:
No overclock, boosts to like 2950 - 3000 ish:


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And then with the overclock where it boosts to around 3200-3250 and +2000 on the memory:

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Similar (generally 5-6% gain I have found) on other games though MH:W is the best one for getting more performance out the overclock.

Steel Nomad, I need to undervolt way more than I am currently doing to get more headroom but overclock increased mine from just under 14.9k to 15.3k, so similar to Cyberpunk and about 3% gain. Don't have screenshots unfortunately in my ShareX folder and have uninstalled it now so can't be bothered to run it again. But if I have the game, then happy to run other benchmarks.
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Impressive, thanks for sharing! I suppose I'd want at least 5+% gain from OCing if i spent a million pound on a liquid cooled 5090 :D
 
wunkley said:
Same here - MSI 5080 Gaming Trio. Overpaid for it by about £100+ looking at current prices, which irks me. It's a very nice card but aesthetically I really prefer FE models and always have done. FE's are Just too hard to get though.
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Way harder this time than the 40 series. Two months after launch the 4090 FE would sit in stock for several hours, allowing me to get one without using a notification app. I just refreshed the site and could buy it. I don't think we are seeing that level of supply return for FE cards.
 
Describing GPU tuning with just the words 'overclocking' or 'undervolting' ends up with confusion. Firstly, they're fundamentally the same thing - setting efficient voltage for *your* particular chip. Secondly, 2 words is not enough to describe everything people are doing. If I set a more efficient curve, don't allow the card to draw more power than stock, is that overclocking? If I do limit the power but the card is boosting higher than stock but also using less power, is that overlocking or undervolting? Saying things like 'undervolting is better than overclocking', what does that even mean? If I tune my curve so it's as efficient as possible, it is not intrinsically 'better' to limit power lower than stock. It's just using the overhead you gained for a different outcome. Creating an efficient curve is the most important thing.
 
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