NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[[timko]]

These are the datacentre cards for the "full fat" GB202 chips. No mention of pricing but the outgoing RTX 6000 Ada with "only" 48GB GDDR6 was 6.8k USD MSRP so that means this new card with double the VRAM is going to be even more expensive.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...series-24064-cores-96gb-memory-and-up-to-600w

24064 CUDA cores + 96GB GDDR7 ECC

 

[Grim5]

Half life 2 RTX is out

 

[LeBeast]

Replaced my Gigabyte 4090 OC with a 5090 FE yesterday. I was expecting it to be super loud and have annoying coil whine like the poster who just recently also got a FE.

But surprisingly the FE was pretty quiet and not much louder than the chonky quad-slot 4090. That was with a vented side panel tho.

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I use this case. I got a vented side panel before because the Gigabyte sat too close to the glass.

The 5090 FE sits a decent amount from the panel so I went back to the glass panel because it looked nicer and is quieter.

However, I left the Wukong benchmark on loop and the 5090 got cooked in 30 mins. The system had actually shutdown when I checked it. It was quite surprising because I thought that at worst, it'd just throttle.

This 5090 FE design needs a ton of airflow. I checked again and even with undervolting, the 5090 FE gets to 85C when I have the glass panel on.
At stock voltage, it'd overheat for sure, like when I had the benchmark on loop.

I went back to the vented side panel again, and the temps are in the low 60s even when running at stock voltages. The noise level is actually about the same because the fans run much slower at lower temps.

So basically, it's not a good idea to mount the FE vertically unless your case has lots of airflow. Unfortunately, with this case, it can only be mounted vertically.

 

[LeBeast]

Half life 2 RTX is out

Damn, 4090 is a beast.

So far I haven't really noticed a big difference upgrading to a 5090 from 4090, except in Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk is noticeably smoother and faster.

However, for most games, the jump is similar to upgrading from a PS5 to a PS5 pro.

 

[no_1_dave]

Damn, 4090 is a beast.

So far I haven't really noticed a big difference upgrading to a 5090 from 4090, except in Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk is noticeably smoother and faster.

However, for most games, the jump is similar to upgrading from a PS5 to a PS5 pro.

It's the vram limitation...
The 10GB 3080 is vram limited as it has the same FPS at 4K as it does with 1440p.
I'm guessing the 16GB vram is causing problems on the 5080 at native 4K judging by how far ahead the 4090 is

 

[Rogueywon]

Damn, 4090 is a beast.

So far I haven't really noticed a big difference upgrading to a 5090 from 4090, except in Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk is noticeably smoother and faster.

However, for most games, the jump is similar to upgrading from a PS5 to a PS5 pro.

I've felt quite a big difference in Monster Hunter Wilds and Star Wars Outlaws. The raw performance increase is enough in those that, even without using MFG, it's eliminated the occasional slowdown I was getting on the 4090, meaning it just feels like it flows better overall.

 

[LeBeast]

I've felt quite a big difference in Monster Hunter Wilds and Star Wars Outlaws. The raw performance increase is enough in those that, even without using MFG, it's eliminated the occasional slowdown I was getting on the 4090, meaning it just feels like it flows better overall.

Yeah, that's the kind of difference I'm hoping for. Gonna test out more games to see the difference. I did notice that some non-RT games can now be ran at a stable 4K/120 when before I had to use DLSS quality to not drop below 120 FPS.

What do you think of MFG? It was a little blurry in Alan Wake 2 and movement seemed quite a bit laggier. But in Cyberpunk, the input latency is quite low and it was pretty sharp even with 3X MFG. I think 4X is a bit too much for my 240HZ display, I'd rather the base framerate be 80 instead of 60 for 4X.

 

[Rogueywon]

Yeah, that's the kind of difference I'm hoping for. Gonna test out more games to see the difference. I did notice that some non-RT games can now be ran at a stable 4K/120 when before I had to use DLSS quality to not drop below 120 FPS.

What do you think of MFG? It was a little blurry in Alan Wake 2 and movement seemed quite a bit laggier. But in Cyberpunk, the input latency is quite low and it was pretty sharp even with 3X MFG. I think 4X is a bit too much for my 240HZ display, I'd rather the base framerate be 80 instead of 60 for 4X.

Same experience as you with MFG. Alan Wake 2 looked ok, but a little bit blurry. I'm not sure whether the lagginess was due to MFG or to the general sogginess of the controls in that game. Cyberpunk is very impressive. It looks great and while I can feel a tiny bit of input lag, it's within the tolerable realms for a game like Cyberpunk.

 

[Grim5]

It's the vram limitation...
The 10GB 3080 is vram limited as it has the same FPS at 4K as it does with 1440p.
I'm guessing the 16GB vram is causing problems on the 5080 at native 4K judging by how far ahead the 4090 is

Full path tracing is very heavy on vram

Based on results I've seen, 10GB VRAM is only capable of 1080p in HL2 RTX, 16GB VRAM only capable of 1440p and 24gb vram is needed for 4k

Never the less the 4090 still outperforms the 5080 handsomely when vram is not the limitation - at 1440p the 5080 does much better but is still 37% behind the 4090

 

[Nitefly]

It would be interesting to see how the 3090 fares at this (HL2:RTX) … will try and give this a whirl in the next day or so!

 

[LeBeast]

Full path tracing is very heavy on vram

Based on results I've seen, 10GB VRAM is only capable of 1080p in HL2 RTX, 16GB VRAM only capable of 1440p and 24gb vram is needed for 4k

Never the less the 4090 still outperforms the 5080 handsomely when vram is not the limitation - at 1440p the 5080 does much better but is still 37% behind the 4090

Yeah, it's pretty nuts how the 4090 is so far ahead of its time. I'm not even sure that the next-gen consoles will catch up. People complained about the 4090's price but for its original $1600 MSRP, it was absolutely a steal.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

Spoke to Scan this morning..
They said that I can return it and they will test it and then if found faulty then they will add me to the front of the pre-order queue for the 5090FE.

So next time there is a drop of the FE then I would get a card, however they have no idea when this is likely to be.
Said I could be waiting up to 3 months for a replacement card.

3 months! Sounds like they barely know if they will receive any more FE cards at all. Maybe I should have paid £2,245 for the Palit GameRock that came in stock today at a retailer....

 

[humbug]

Half life 2 RTX is out

And its a literal slide show.....

Yeah no thanks.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

Yeah, it's pretty nuts how the 4090 is so far ahead of its time. I'm not even sure that the next-gen consoles will catch up. People complained about the 4090's price but for its original $1600 MSRP, it was absolutely a steal.

I paid £780 for my first gaming PC GPU (RTX 3080) and thought spending £1,600 on the 4090 FE was nuts. As soon as I moved from 1440p to 4k gaming I was sold. The fact it has aged so well is the icing on the cake!

 

[humbug]

Just read the reviews for Half Life 2 RTX on Steam, this is unplayable on anything but the 4090 / 5090.

What's the point? This is just a marketing tool for £2000 GPU's, its s symptom of everything that's wrong with PC gaming now.

 

[Ayahuasca]

@Nexus18 best uninstall, it's unplayable on a 5080 apparently.

 

[Nitefly]

Half life 2 RTX is out

So on my 3090 absolutely maxed I’m rocking between 7-11fps

If anyone’s interested, Rivatuner is suggesting that 17.5gb of vram is allocated.

 

[humbug]

@Nexus18 best uninstall, it's unplayable on a 5080 apparently.

I thought he'd quit the forum months ago... until i clicked on his profile and realised he's been posting in this thread just a few minutes ago.

He's completely invisible to me.... Mods do this?

 

[Nitefly]

Playing around with the settings a bit, I get 70fps with DLSS on ultra performance and ray tracing on low.

The image is of course noticeably softer - it sort of gives the game a stylistic, semi-'cell shaded' look which masks the artefacts a bit.

It's perfectly playable for the sake of giving it a whirl. The lighting and overall look of the game is much better than HL2 source, as you would expect.

I'm not sure it's interesting enough for me to warrant another full playthrough, but it is pretty cool to mess around with all the raytracing options and models in game on the fly and see the differences between transformer, CNN etc.

So for that reason... if you're interested in graphics and how these settings may affect FPS, worth 20 mins of messing around

 

[BKUK]

Just read the reviews for Half Life 2 RTX on Steam, this is unplayable on anything but the 4090 / 5090.

What's the point? This is just a marketing tool for £2000 GPU's, its s symptom of everything that's wrong with PC gaming now.

It’s just crazy, Considering it’s a shooter and you want all the fps you can get. I mean Cyberpunk path tracing performs better and looks way better. I’ve been playing Robocop which obv uses UE5 and nanite and that looks and plays great on my 5080. To remake a classic like HL2 and 2 graphics cards in the world run it maxed out just barely has got to be a joke .

It’s a pass for me I’ll play to original at 300+fps before this.