Underrated difference is that fewer people then had sedentary jobs, or even if those kinds of careers were beginning to become more common they would not have been in them for very long at that point.
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A few things in Japan one has to note.
1 - Japan's threshold for obesity is a BMI of ≥25 kg/m2. Even with this, the percentage is 4%.
2 - Firms are required by law to reduce staff obesity, failure to do so, they are fined - to go towards warfare fund. The law was introduced call Metabo Law in 2008.
3 - People aged 40-75 have annual checkups on their weight.
4 - It is a social norm to go "oh, you've got fat." straight to someone's face.
In some cases I think this is right. When my girl was 7 the school she went to there was a massive boy in the same year group.
His mum would say “he will only eat takeaway”
Yeah, I was 23st 7, I dropped to 11st 12, I'm now quite on my way back up and already past morbidly obese..
I acknowledge it's 100% my fault, and want to get back to a healthier weight.. I feel terrible about it at times, but I know it's something that can be done and is my responsibililty.
No surprise, I am horrified to see this fringe progressive mob who literally are advocating that fat is good.. it is not.. they are insane in putting not offending someone ahead of their actual physical and mental well being which is far far far more important..
Good, easier to stand out from the chonkers if you put a bit of effort into your appearance.
Ultra-processed food, more sedentary jobs, and people being misled by social media's portrayal of health and fitness where you can be healthy at any size etc.
Ultra-processed food, more sedentary jobs, and people being misled by social media's portrayal of health and fitness where you can be healthy at any size etc.
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Yes, I saw this and thought the exact same thing. No one wants to offend, it's a joke.
I think there is a bit of nuance to this. A lot of people who are obese struggle with motivation because of mental health conditions. Their go-to way of alleviating this is to eat. Shaming that group of obese people tends to just exacerbate the issue because they get upset and eat more, so it can just be sort of a cycle for them. It is also the case that a small group of people have medical conditions like Cushing's disorder which make it really hard to shift weight.
At that point shaming people for it is counterproductive and really only serves to create some sense of superiority in others.
But the other extreme as you've pointed out, is some have tried to make it socially unacceptable to advocate for weight loss at all. Even going to the extent that a doctor pointing out weight loss could help them makes them a "bad doctor", even though it's done in a neutral, supportive way. I think that's going too far and has basically gone to a place of just denying reality to support an identity based around body image.
Obviously there's a middle ground to be had: it isn't be the place of random people to shame obese people. Mind your own business. But at the same time if a doctor is saying "you're going to really help yourself if you lose weight" then it's prudent to take that advice.
Edit: should probably clarify this isn't purely a reply to your comment but I sort of crystallised some opinion which is also a bit of a response to other things on reading it, thanks for sharing.
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Stuff like this doesn't help, trying to normalise being obese as perfectly fine.
I also blame food manufacturers as well. Ultra processed food and snacks are honed by engineers to hit all the right receptors to make people keep eating it. Purely all done for profit. Human's never had to content with that in the past.
Speaking of Dr's pointing out weight issues. There's a Columbian (I think) Dr called Dr Now. He's on some TV show where he doesn't mince his words, it's quite funny.
There was some american guy who was something like 40 stone, and he goes "I think it's just water retention.." Dr Now, just looks at him with disbelief.. "I just don't want to get malnourished.." Dr Now: "Do you look like you are malnourished!?"
We need more straight talking attitude like that.
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Found the video
www.youtube.com
I also blame food manufacturers as well. Ultra processed food and snacks are honed by engineers to hit all the right receptors to make people keep eating it. Purely all done for profit. Human's never had to content with that in the past.
Speaking of Dr's pointing out weight issues. There's a Columbian (I think) Dr called Dr Now. He's on some TV show where he doesn't mince his words, it's quite funny.
There was some american guy who was something like 40 stone, and he goes "I think it's just water retention.." Dr Now, just looks at him with disbelief.. "I just don't want to get malnourished.." Dr Now: "Do you look like you are malnourished!?"
We need more straight talking attitude like that.
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Found the video
After A Bad Weigh-In, Lee Gets Into An Argument With His Doctor
#My600lbLife | Wednesdays at 8/7cLee gets into an argument with Dr. Nowzaradan when he doesn't meet his weight loss goals.Full Episodes Streaming FREE: https...
www.youtube.com
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The go to of ultra processed/fast food is part of that cycle. The diet needs to be changed first, then exercise. Too many people are in denial about what and how much they really eat.
It's interesting. Ultra processed foods are one thing but I wonder if other things which are designed to "hack" our reward systems feed into it as well e.g. social media. Like potentially non-processed food doesn't give some people the sense of reward that it should partly because their dopamine systems have been so messed up by social media etc.
this is wrong, maybe she they have good mental health... but no its not healthy.
BUT skinny is not healthy, people starve them selves to be skinny, thats very unhealthy.
BUT skinny is not healthy, people starve them selves to be skinny, thats very unhealthy.
Reading the original article I saw it say
Which initially struck me as a bit counterintuitive but it does seem that obesity is a type of malnutrition.
I suppose mal just means 'poor' so yea, a poor nutrition does lead to under or over weight issues. You learn something new every day!
Depends on what you mean by skinny, PoW camp skinny then obviously not, but being skinny is still healthier on average than being overweight.
The discussion (obesity) doesn't have to jump to the other end of the scale, pardon the pun.
im just saying there is a lot of skinny people out there that assume there healthy just because there skinny.
i mean on this forum there will be an army of late teen's early 20's that live on monster zero and play pc all day. there super skinny but defo not healthy
Just like the same group of roid guys using the weights area as their chill out zone for 8 hours a day.
what?
Do you live in a small village or town, how far out is the area you're using?
I ask because I live in a medium sized town and I can count at least 5 gyms in it, if I spread that out just a little bit, there are loads.
It shouldn't be difficult for anyone to get access to a gym in the UK, unless you're way out in the sticks.
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rural wales
the nearest gym is 3 miles away and the next nearest is a 1 hour round trip
both are small and right next door to schools so there is always a load of kids in there messing about and being loud and obnoxious
where i live in Yorkshire there is 0 in walking distance. 2 within a 20min drive and 5 if your willing to drive says 30-40min.
takeaways there is 7 in my small village and if you did the same comparison say withing the 20min drive like the 2 gyms, you would be well into the 20's or 30's.
the 2 close to me, 1 is a council gym that is massively underfunded and it always full. the second is £68 a month as top class gear and is very nice place to go.
when you ask people there not willing to pay £68 its too much, but ask them how much there paying on takeaways. i have 1 a week and for the 2 of us its about £40.