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*****OcUK Benchmark Results from ATI HD 69xx Series*****

What concerns me most about 6900 (apart from owning GTX580's:)), is that AMD have only sanctioned the use of Heaven benchmarking before launch. Why only this?

I guess we will find out soon, but I still think 6970 will equal GTX570 or thereabouts for a similar price. If so, 6950 will be the only winner for AMD (at current pricing), insofar as it comfortably beats the old GTX470.
 
555BUK said:
What concerns me most about 6900 (apart from owning GTX580's:)), is that AMD have only sanctioned the use of Heaven benchmarking before launch. Why only this?

I guess we will find out soon, but I still think 6970 will equal GTX570 or thereabouts for a similar price. If so, 6950 will be the only winner for AMD (at current pricing), so long as it comfortably beats the old GTX470.
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If you did really consider this and had some brains to back it up, you'd find that it was the weakest point of the previous generation. This only backs up that they really made it through with the new gen and 6900 are not just a refresh (you don't see such performance increases in refreshed hardware).

GTX570 is already cheaper than HD6970, if the latter costs £279. The performance must be and will be better, to think otherwise is unreasonable. Plus it's AMD who's undercutting Nvidia, not the other way around.
 
Mr Krugga said:
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.1105

This is what I have, the latest from AMD's website. These were floating around for the past few days already.
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Yes, but a guy on here has a heaven bench with driver version 8.851, which like I just said a reviewer from a german website hasn't heard of, neither has a different guy who works for Rage3D.
 
i would be so happy if heaven was its worst performing benchmark
that would wipe the smile of a few fanboy faces

can someone link to the pyramid post please? thanks
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your kidding right ? ?
 
Mr Krugga said:
Dunno but it still proves that 8.00 isn't the latest driver (that driver showed as 10.11 for me).
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You were using the leaked beta I'm guessing, they don't often update version strings in those, the 10.12 drivers released yesterday are 8.801.

Plus you're linking to the 2D driver version which isn't what I'm on about.

I'm talking about the packaging version, the latest available to us being:

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Someone on here posted a heaven bench with packaging version 8.851
 
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555BUK said:
What concerns me most about 6900 (apart from owning GTX580's:)), is that AMD have only sanctioned the use of Heaven benchmarking before launch. Why only this?

I guess we will find out soon, but I still think 6970 will equal GTX570 or thereabouts for a similar price. If so, 6950 will be the only winner for AMD (at current pricing), insofar as it comfortably beats the old GTX470.
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AMD haven't sanctioned anything, people since the 580gtx are only concerned with uniengine, which is a shame as it means literally nothing.

As for lack of improvements, the only game benchmarks we've seen flying around suggest an average of 25% faster than the 570gtx, thats not exactly anything to complain about.

People also seem to be forgetting, as I've said for a LONG LONG time, huge improvement, 80%+ on the same process wasn't going to happen.

40% would be pretty damn good, more would be astonishing. The 5870 is up to 20% slower then the 480gtx, the 580gtx is 20% faster than the 480gtx, if the 6970 offers 580gtx performance(or maybe even higher) then its come a LOT further than the 580gtx came to get there. The VAST majority of the Nvidia performance came from improved/full yield parts. Being that AMD had full yield parts already, thats 10-15% performance that just wasn't available and there for the taking as it was for Nvidia.


Its a shame Gibbo didn't bench any games, because uniengine/3dmark performance means smeg all right now, games I can play in performance means everything. It could be 30% slower or 30% faster than a 580gtx and STILL GET THE SAME UNIENGINE SCORE.

The £220/275 pricing is VERY clever, by AMD, the price on the 5870/5850 were TOO far apart, meaning very very few people went for the much higher profit 5870, reducing this gap means more people get the more expensive card, likewise overally they seem great because the top card is down £25 on last gen, but the bottom card is the real volume card of the two and £20 more means more profit.

Gibbo, did you actually pay a lot more for the cards and get rebates, or was it ordered, but not paid for the cards yet and you've suddenly been handed a much lower bill to pay for the cards?

My guess is AMD leaked pricing and let the real prices get out so Nvidia didn't tank their pricing before AMD could launch, if Nvidia found out the real pricing a couple weeks ago Nvidia could tank their pricing prelaunch and make AMD appear "normal" value, while AMD giving out fake high pricing means Nvidia don't react, and now will tank pricing AFTER launch, which will only be reported as reacting to better value cards from AMD, which looks good for AMD.

In other words, yet another part of the master secrecy/disinformation plan from AMD? If so, genius.
 
I love how the NDA has basically been thrown out as OcUK's biggest competitor has put the 6950 and 6970 up on their site. By the looks of it XFX are their main supplier as they are the prices OcUK are charging.

And Gibbo can rest easy as they aint showing any stock, and if they have stock for tomorrow remains to be seen...

You can also buy a 6970 in a metal case ala the Ares!
 
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