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it his us hard in August so glad to see others are enjoying it too.OcUK Dadsnet thread
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it his us hard in August so glad to see others are enjoying it too.
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The NHS website agrees with you:
Baby bouncers, walkers and seats
It's important that your baby does not spend too much time in:
- baby walkers or bouncers – these encourage babies to stand on their tiptoes and can delay walking if your baby uses them a lot
- baby carriers and seats – long periods in reclining carriers or seats, or seats that prop your baby in a sitting position, can delay your baby's ability to sit up on their own
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/babys-development/play-and-learning/keep-baby-or-toddler-active/
It's not something I personally advise parents as I suspect the quality of evidence is poor (I can't actually find any). If you have a child at risk of developmental problems it would seem especially important though.
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I think I was sick about 15 times in the course of a single day, on top of all the diarrhea, by the end I was just crying over the toilet. The worst part is I had a Huel vanilla shake the evening before - I'm not sure if I will ever be able to drink it again
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Word of warning, you'll be contagious for ages if it was anything like we had. We gave it a week before hanging out with family, but still managed to pass it to grandparents (lol when we first arrived and the granddad exclaimed how he'd never been sick as an adult and has a strong immunity to stomach bugs) and our niece (who then gave it to her grandparents!).I think I was sick about 15 times in the course of a single day, on top of all the diarrhea, by the end I was just crying over the toilet. The worst part is I had a Huel vanilla shake the evening before - I'm not sure if I will ever be able to drink it again
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Wonderful, my wife was meant to go back to work this week but is now going next week, and I think we might have grandparents visiting next weekend. Will just have to be on ultra hand washing alert. On the plus side we're due a thorough cleaning of the house this weekend also so that should help some as well
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On the flip side if you dislike them then don't bother
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Everything in moderation. He gets tired usually after 10-15 minutes anyway and starts moaning at us to take him out. We don't use it much anymore either he used it for like 2 months. He's now crawling or doing his best to. He doesn't like being in it for long as he likes to explore now.
Going to have to get the magnetic locks I ordered from IKEA on the coffee table initially got the corner protectors already on a few bits.
Our lass during pregnancy told the midwife's multiple times that she was not showing signs of any colostrum coming through or her breasts changing, all dismissed.
Anyway our lass had an emergency c section, all was fine until a few days after when the little one was dehydrated, went to children's hospital to get some emergency help and used syringes to build her back up.
At this point she asked if it could be her...told no.
Since then we have had to feed her every three hours via breast and top ups, we were told it's how we were doing it or the milk just isn't quite there yet.
Tongue tie was ruled out by multiple doctors.
So about 8 different midwife's multiple doctors three feeding specialists later our lass is having a mental breakdown, we are on a feeding plan to build weight up and get her back onto the breast, however if we stop the top ups she looses weight, so something is not working, but they all shrug thier shoulders.
We just went to see a private specialist lactation consultant as we had exhausted every other option to see if tounge tie was the culprit, turns out it could be, however she also looked at our lasses breasts and found out she suffered from a insufficient glandular tissue disorder that starts in puberty and effects how much milk you can produce.
The big one...this could have been diagnosed in early pregnancy by the midwife's and even later and a hormone treatment put in place to counter act it or a supplementary nursing system to help stimulate the production more whilst giving baby incentive and not cry in frustration or sleep.
Apparently the lactation consultant said that everyone took the easy/lazy or didn't know options so defaulted to the ' it's how you are feeding her and it takes time'
We are now about to start a supplementary nursing system to hopefully get back on track and having the tongue tie removed, so fingers crossed we can solve it now.
We found out that a lot of woman struggle with breast feeding and mental problems as a result so wanted to share to hopefully give parents to be a heads up on this problem as it's not really paid any attention in the general NHS if you notice breasts not changing or feeding problems
Anyway our lass had an emergency c section, all was fine until a few days after when the little one was dehydrated, went to children's hospital to get some emergency help and used syringes to build her back up.
At this point she asked if it could be her...told no.
Since then we have had to feed her every three hours via breast and top ups, we were told it's how we were doing it or the milk just isn't quite there yet.
Tongue tie was ruled out by multiple doctors.
So about 8 different midwife's multiple doctors three feeding specialists later our lass is having a mental breakdown, we are on a feeding plan to build weight up and get her back onto the breast, however if we stop the top ups she looses weight, so something is not working, but they all shrug thier shoulders.
We just went to see a private specialist lactation consultant as we had exhausted every other option to see if tounge tie was the culprit, turns out it could be, however she also looked at our lasses breasts and found out she suffered from a insufficient glandular tissue disorder that starts in puberty and effects how much milk you can produce.
The big one...this could have been diagnosed in early pregnancy by the midwife's and even later and a hormone treatment put in place to counter act it or a supplementary nursing system to help stimulate the production more whilst giving baby incentive and not cry in frustration or sleep.
Apparently the lactation consultant said that everyone took the easy/lazy or didn't know options so defaulted to the ' it's how you are feeding her and it takes time'
We are now about to start a supplementary nursing system to hopefully get back on track and having the tongue tie removed, so fingers crossed we can solve it now.
We found out that a lot of woman struggle with breast feeding and mental problems as a result so wanted to share to hopefully give parents to be a heads up on this problem as it's not really paid any attention in the general NHS if you notice breasts not changing or feeding problems
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I agree I do think they almost seem a bit wishy washy. My Mrs breast fed both our kids, but my eldest was far more difficult. On a less serious note, round here if you said somebody had a look at breast it would likely involve t shirt lifting and jiggling
. I remember when my Mrs was in labour and they kept trying to fob us off (with both kids). 2nd one was born as my Mrs got out the car (no kidding).
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I would be wary of lactation consultants if I'm honest my experience has been most operate with very little evidence behind what they do. The advice you've been given sounds pretty sketchy to me. You can't escape a lactation consultant without paying for a tongue division, sometimes followed by a posterior tongue tie division. It's a miracle anyone has a tongue still attached with some of them.
The idea that this could have been picked up before pregnancy is dubious. Most women don't see significant breast changes in the run up to childbirth. You wouldn't expect colostrum in many women before birth unless trying to harvest milk intentionally. Many women don't produce colostrum for a day or even two after birth, especially without a normal labour.
Breast feeding problems after birth are extremely common, it really isn't easy and you're not alone.
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I agree I do think they almost seem a bit wishy washy. My Mrs breast fed both our kids, but my eldest was far more difficult. On a less serious note, round here if you said somebody had a look at breast it would likely involve t shirt lifting and jiggling
Indeed.
Having gone through problems with breast feeding it's unreal how many struggle and especially the mental side on mum is extreme!
Yet no one talks about it and the help is rubbish, with no knowledge even in Sheffield's children's hospital! especially for something extremely crucial or if there was we were never given access to.
I'd hate to know how many have struggled with this and fobbed off due to lack of knowledge or laziness on something so critical.
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There's nothing wrong with formula mate. Obviously it's lacking some antibodies and other things but nutritionally it's complete.
Don't get too hung up that it has to be breast milk.
I'm not, I know she will be healthy, our lass however is taking a massive hit, she thinks she is useless as she can't feed her at the moment , hormones and maternal instincts.
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My wife struggled with the breast feeding as well, also took it hard, both kids ended up on formula after a few weeks, both are fine. The various nurses can be a touch evangelical about boob milk.
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Only you can really help and offer support and reassurance there. A lot of people go through the same thing and it's perfectly normal.
You may have to try a few different formulas before you get one that works for the baby. Ours didn't like aptamil is it the blue tub. Was much better with the cheaper cow & gate option. They are all the same though in terms of being nutritionally complete this is highly regulated and legislated. Companies get taken to task if something is wrong with it too like a formula change where babies don't do so well on it.
Everything will be fine in the end. My wife's friend didn't even bother trying with her second she said formula was just so much easier and she's a doctor as in a legit doctor who has worked in hospital, etc.
My wife never wanted to breast feed.
Very sensitive nipples.. heh.
Anyway, she tried, baby wouldn't latch.
So we bottle fed the expensive stuff. He's very good and is 3 years old now.
Breast isn't always best.. especially if you can't get the milk out. Lol
Very sensitive nipples.. heh.
Anyway, she tried, baby wouldn't latch.
So we bottle fed the expensive stuff. He's very good and is 3 years old now.
Breast isn't always best.. especially if you can't get the milk out. Lol
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Obviously breast milk is the cheaper option, and it meant I didn't have to get up as much
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.Our lad is 15 months now so born in ‘proper’ lockdown, and found that in general with breast feeding problems everyone was all too quick to dismiss anything and put it down to technique.
Reminds me of the quote that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
He lost a lot of weight initially, and despite all the various checks where on more than on occasion it was noted a potential tongue tie but nothing was done, we finally had an appointment with the NHS specialist at the hospital who was great and said straight away yup tongue tie.
It was stopping him getting enough food, midwife reckoned he was trying so hard to get the milk he was burning more energy than he was taking in
They snipped it and things were better but not great. Few weeks later went back to the specialist, oh the tie is still a bit restrictive so we’ll snip it again.
Was just so frustrating that people were picking up there could be an issue but then just dismissing or ignoring it, and felt partly due to the COVID situation at the time of everyone just wanting things sorted quickly to get people out the doors.
The total lack of support during that time is another story which has impacted us massively.
Reminds me of the quote that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
He lost a lot of weight initially, and despite all the various checks where on more than on occasion it was noted a potential tongue tie but nothing was done, we finally had an appointment with the NHS specialist at the hospital who was great and said straight away yup tongue tie.
It was stopping him getting enough food, midwife reckoned he was trying so hard to get the milk he was burning more energy than he was taking in
They snipped it and things were better but not great. Few weeks later went back to the specialist, oh the tie is still a bit restrictive so we’ll snip it again.
Was just so frustrating that people were picking up there could be an issue but then just dismissing or ignoring it, and felt partly due to the COVID situation at the time of everyone just wanting things sorted quickly to get people out the doors.
The total lack of support during that time is another story which has impacted us massively.