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OcUK Intel Raptor Lake review thread

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Look at these clowns, test at mem bandwidth hungry 720p, with different ram speeds and you expect this to be a real indication of cpu performance.
 

Look at these clowns, test at mem bandwidth hungry 720p, with different ram speeds and you expect this to be a real indication of cpu performance.

Faster ram on the Intel CPU's, why do people do this? if its not apples to apples you can immediately disregard it.
 
The Core i5 13600K thrashes a Ryzen 5 7600 and Ryzen 7 7700X in Photolab and Lightroom:

Even in Adobe After Effects,the Core i5 13600K holds it's own against the Ryzen 7 7700X. Even in gaming the Core i5 13600K holds its own against the Ryzen 5 7600 and Ryzen 7 7700X,and it is compatible with DDR4 and can use cheaper motherboards too.
 
They are using 5600MT/s vs 5200MT/s ^^^^



The 5800X3D is currently £420, the 13600K is £380.

The 7600X tho is £320 and only 8% behind the 13900K, suddenly that looks quite good.

The Core i5 13600KF is only about 10% more expensive than a Ryzen 5 7600X. It's faster in many non-gaming benchmarks and is competitive in gaming too. You can also use it in cheaper DDR4 motherboards too,if you don't mind loosing some performance. In terms of gaming its not that much slower than the Core i9 13900K.

It's no wonder when the big cores of the Ryzen 5 7600X and Core i5 13600KF,are not that far apart in performance,but the latter has 8 Skylake level "smaller" cores that can help out. It's like have a downclocked Core i7 9700 just on the side.

The Ryzen 5 7600X is just too expensive,and the Ryzen 7 7700X needs a price cut too. The Core i9 13900K is just laughable TBH!
 
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Just look at the 13900k power usage, performance per watt is a total joke, with that in mind the 5800X3D looks even better!
Bearing in mind the huge AM4 userbase there is a lot of potential sales there, all people who wouldn't be then buying Intel for some years to come. Power equals heat and I'll sacrifice some performance to save a lot of heat. Seems obvious Intel have pushed the 13900K beyond its most efficient point to get results in reviews.
 
Bearing in mind the huge AM4 userbase there is a lot of potential sales there, all people who wouldn't be then buying Intel for some years to come. Power equals heat and I'll sacrifice some performance to save a lot of heat. Seems obvious Intel have pushed the 13900K beyond its most efficient point to get results in reviews.

It reminds me of this episode of The Raccoons:
 
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The Core i5 13600KF is only about 10% more expensive than a Ryzen 5 7600X. It's faster in many non-gaming benchmarks and is competitive in gaming too. You can also use it in cheaper DDR4 motherboards too,if you don't mind loosing some performance.

The Ryzen 5 7600X is just too expensive,and the Ryzen 7 7700X needs a price cut too. The Core i9 13900K is just laughable TBH!

The DDR4 argument doesn't make sense if you lose performance, either its better performance value or it isn't. I mean a Ryzen 5600, + 16GB of 3600MT/s Ram and a decent motherboard costs the same just the 13600KF alone and is still a good gaming CPU.

The 7600X IS too expensive i agree, all i'm saying is Raptorlake is also not cheap, make the 7600X £250 or bring a 7600 None X for that amount to the table and the dynamic changes.
 
They are using 5600MT/s vs 5200MT/s ^^^^



The 5800X3D is currently £420, the 13600K is £380.

The 7600X tho is £320 and only 8% behind the 13900K, suddenly that looks quite good.
Buying new I'd go AM5 for the upgrade path, the 13900K isn't cheap. No point upgrading from a 12900K. If already on AM4 just go 5800X3D for gaming. I don't see the 13900K selling out.
 
Buying new I'd go AM5 for the upgrade path, the 13900K isn't cheap. No point upgrading from a 12900K. If already on AM4 just go 5800X3D for gaming. I don't see the 13900K selling out.

Yeah the 13600 K KF... whatever also is not a cheap CPU, i worry that some people seem to be suggesting it is, i can see tech journalists normalising near £400 for a lower end CPU as if it has no competition, and we wonder why these things keep going up in price.
 
The DDR4 argument doesn't make sense if you lose performance, either its better performance value or it isn't. I mean a Ryzen 5600, + 16GB of 3600MT/s Ram and a decent motherboard costs the same just the 13600KF alone and is still a good gaming CPU.

The 7600X IS too expensive i agree, all i'm saying is Raptorlake is also not cheap, make the 7600X £250 or bring a 7600 None X for that amount to the table and the dynamic changes.

I was looking at one of the comparisons,and the Core i5 13600K seems to lose at best about 10% in games,but then at the same token a Core i5 12600KF is under £300 too. Apparently the Core i5 13400F is essentially a Core i5 12600K.

The big issue is AMD charging too much for a core deficit. The Ryzen 7 7700X should be under £400,and the Ryzen 5 7600X under £300,especially as the Ryzen 9 7900X is under £600 and the Ryzen 9 7950X is under £800. The Ryzen 5 7600X and Ryzen 7 7700X cost far more per core than either of the Ryzen 9 CPUs. They did this same nonsense with the Ryzen 5 5600X and Ryzen 7 5800X. The Ryzen 9 CPUs were cheaper per core.

The issue is AMD is charging so much for a Ryzen 5 7600X and Ryzen 7 7700X,it makes a Core i5 13600KF look good value. It's as fast for gaming,and get's close to a Ryzen 7 7700X in non-gaming applications. It appears the meme cores make a difference!
 
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Needs posting again, intel right now.....

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Impressive all round imo.




Need to decide what to do, I want an upgrade my 5600x and it's either going to be pop in a 5800x3d and call it a day for a couple of years or go new MB + 13600KF (can keep using my DDR 4 kit from what I can see? Then pick up DDR 5 ram when price drops). Will be pairing it with next gen gpu next year, maybe the inevitable 4080ti or rdna 3/7800xt/7900xt. My B450 tomahawk is 4+ years old now though so kind of fancy a new setup...
 
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I was looking at one of the comparisons,and the Core i5 13600K seems to lose at best about 10% in games,but then at the same token a Core i5 12600KF is under £300 too. Apparently the Core i5 13400F is essentially a Core i5 12600K.

The big issue is AMD charging too much for a core deficit. The Ryzen 7 7700X should be under £400,and the Ryzen 5 7600X under £300,especially as the Ryzen 9 7900X is under £600 and the Ryzen 9 7950X is under £800. The Ryzen 5 7600X and Ryzen 7 7700X cost far more per core than either of the Ryzen 9 CPUs.

The issue is AMD is charging so much for a Ryzen 5 7600X and Ryzen 7 7700X,it makes a Core i5 13600KF look good value. It's as fast for gaming,and get's close to a Ryzen 7 7700X in non-gaming applications.

I don't disagree with any of that, again its not the argument i'm making.

16GB 3600MT/s: £80

B550M Motherboard: £80

Ryzen 5600: £189

Total: £349

13600KF: £356

12600KF: £309

Do you think those things are cheap? I don't.
 
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