OcUK Mafia game thread - Game 3

Gooner Leroy said:
The reason I've been quiet has been to let other people talk for once :p (and partly being very busy IRL) so that I can try to analyse what's been going on and the patterns of voting.
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Or... it's because you are playing a different game to last time because it is you who is a member of the mafia. It's getting to the thick end of it now and the mafia can no longer afford to sit back and just let the townies do the lynching for them.... the odds are evening up and we've now got close to a 50-50 chance of rooting out scum.
 
Egon said:
Or... it's because you are playing a different game to last time because it is you who is a member of the mafia. It's getting to the thick end of it now and the mafia can no longer afford to sit back and just let the townies do the lynching for them.... the odds are evening up and we've now got close to a 50-50 chance of rooting out scum.
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Is that why you pushed for Brabbinho to be lynched?
 
If you read back you'll find I didn't do any pushing. I stated my cased and made my vote. I made my vote after 2 others (Shami and Fortyseven) had posted similar theories to my own. If others then voted Brabninho, it certainly wasn't because I pushed them... go check.
 
To add to that, not many have put theories forward. I'm more suspicious about those that haven't and that was one of the reasons why I didn't change my vote on Monday night, Fortyseven put forward a more convincing case than Brabbinho.
 
Gooner Leroy said:
Yet you voted to have Brabbinho lynched initially? lol
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You're capable of reading, right? (:p)

I already said, several times now, that the reason I initially put a vote in for Brabbinho was because everybody else was certain he was mafia and I was willing to go with the group decision based on the fact I hadn't been around much. I also said that I would continue catching up on posts from the previous day and that once I'd done that I may change my mind on who to vote for. Which I did. I changed my vote because after reading up I wasn't so sure that Brabbinho was mafia, as it turns out he wasn't mafia. My initial vote didn't really have anything to do with anything but you can carry on trying to point the finger in all other directions if you like. Mafia scum.

Vote: Gooner Leroy
 
I've had another good read of the thread and taken notes of voting patterns, I recommend the rest of the town does the same as it has revealed some interesting patterns and has put a different perspective on things. Particularly after Monday night.
 
The town being so quiet worries me. Silence isn't going to root out the mafia. So here's my take.

Right now I'm not totally convinced on Gooner. I've said all along that he's playing a different game but he hasn't really done anything majorly suspect that I can tell, apart from being absent in the first few days which is anti-town. He has also only voted once, and that was for Killswitch who I am fairly convinced is town. However he did make some very convincing posts back before the lynching of Jedi which suggested he wasn't scum.

Fortyseven and Ghost - I really can't tell. Ghost just hasn't contributed, which as I said above, is very anti-town. Fortyseven, still not sure - he could be some sort of Mafia demi-god and we're all just pawns in his hand.

What I am really interested in is what Pudney's & Shamikebab's game is. After looking through the voting. It is their actions that have raised suspicions.
 
Shamikebab said:
What makes you think Killswitch is town?
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Gut feeling. His actions and voting patterns are less suspicious than others. Than yours for example.

You didn't vote day1 - fair enough, not many did.
But you didn't vote day2 either, could be that you saw a townie getting lynched and thought why bother.
You vote first off on day3 for Fortyseven which was a safe vote given his actions, then watched the madness ensue, saw another townie getting lynched and left your vote as it was. Didn't need to change like many did as you saw another townie getting lynched.

Your role on day3 seemed to be to count the votes and make sure you were seen as present.

Look, I could be dead wrong on this. I just want to see some discussion. Silence is bad for the town and I don't want to see another mafia win. After going over the thread last night, you and Pudney caught my eye. Hopefully the rest of the town will help convince me one way or the other and offer their own theories.
 
His voting patterns aren't suspicious?? What about his flip flopping yesterday :confused:

I was away day 2 and missed the vote window but likely would have voted for 47, as I did day 3. I stuck with 47 because I was more confident that he was mafia than Brabbinho. He then put up a fairly good defence and justified his thoughts on the rest of the town (Course he then went crazy this morning with another flip flop :p)

I came into today most suspicious of Killswitch after his actions yesterday, his quick vote for Gooner just feels like trying to distract the attention from him. Gooner it feels like he's stayed very quiet until there are so few left that he has to speak up really. Ghost is still very quiet (fitting name :p) I actually think all 3 of those could be mafia with perhaps Killswitch trying to split the suspicion up before changing his vote later.

Then there is 47 who is running round with a chicken on his head, I just have no idea whether he's mafia or town now, he is impossible to read.
 
Shamikebab said:
Then there is 47 who is running round with a chicken on his head, I just have no idea whether he's mafia or town now, he is impossible to read.
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See. Mafia Demi-God!

Shamikebab said:
His voting patterns aren't suspicious?? What about his flip flopping yesterday
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But he wasn't the only one who changed their votes. I didn't really see much wrong with what Killswitch did tbh.
 
He wasn't the only one, but his was the most odd. He voted for someone, then said he wasn't suspicious of him and was almost certain he was town (based on the belief that iviv wouldn't have made someone mafia two games in a row) It was very odd.
 
It was odd yes, enough to build a case on. Not sure. His arguing of the odds was a bit daft (sorry Kill :p) but he was also arguing that Brabbinho was a townie and as we know he has flipped town. Why would mafia bother?
 
As someone else said earlier - all you guys having the same or similar avatars makes it hard to follow :D

Will have a little time this afternoon so will read through and give my thoughts on the town as a whole... as per the games I didn't take part in I've come to a few incorrect conclusions before now so would be good to see how much of what I gleam from the thread you guys agree (or disagree) with.
 
Let's look at yesterday:

I vote 47
Brabbinho follows me
You vote Brabbinho
47 votes Brabbinho
Ghost votes Brabbinho
Killswitch votes Brabbinho
Pudney votes Brabbinho
Killswitch changes to Pudney
Gooner votes Killswitch
Brabbinho changes to Ghost
Pudney cancels but then revotes Brabbinho
Psymonkee votes Ghost

I'm glad you've led me to look back because I didn't realise it was you who actually started the voting on Brabbinho, and not long after Fortyseven was leading the lynch vote by 2-0. 47 immediately follows you to even things up and then Ghost, Killswitch and Pudney all follow. Perhaps you and Fortyseven are in cahoots?
 
Egon said:
Gut feeling. His actions and voting patterns are less suspicious than others. Than yours for example.

You didn't vote day1 - fair enough, not many did.
But you didn't vote day2 either, could be that you saw a townie getting lynched and thought why bother.
You vote first off on day3 for Fortyseven which was a safe vote given his actions, then watched the madness ensue, saw another townie getting lynched and left your vote as it was. Didn't need to change like many did as you saw another townie getting lynched.

Your role on day3 seemed to be to count the votes and make sure you were seen as present.

Look, I could be dead wrong on this. I just want to see some discussion. Silence is bad for the town and I don't want to see another mafia win. After going over the thread last night, you and Pudney caught my eye. Hopefully the rest of the town will help convince me one way or the other and offer their own theories.
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I'm interested what about my actions has caught your eye? If you mean my cancelling my vote then reinstating it, it was due to the following thought processes:

1) I was suspicious of Brabbinho, but more than that I've taken the messages Jedi gave at the beginning seriously now that we know he was a townie. Lynching is necessary for this game to evaluate how people vote and to know whether someone's activities are actually those of the mafia.
2) Posts made after my vote made me think I was being hasty, I mentioned that depending on who K1LLSW1TCH changed vote to could make me reconsider mine. At that stage with so few townies left I thought one more guaranteed day for us was more useful than "flipping" Brabbinho.
3) K1LLSW1TCH then votes for me, I was admittedly a bit peeved seeing as he accused me of pointing the fingers "multiple" times. It was once. And that's it.
4) At that stage the only person I was going to vote for was K1LLSW1TCH (because I was annoyed with his vote). That would have been the worst decision to make so I returned my vote to my pre-annoyance vote.

I will say this, and it's VERY important. If Fortyseven is mafia, I'm more than happy if he abstains. If he's townie, he absolutely needs to vote. I'm not going to explain yet, because I don't know if the mafia have worked out what I have, but it is very important. If any of the other townies work out my concerns then you'll understand the need to vote as well.
 
No response to my Killswitch reasoning?

I was initially one of the most vocal about lynching 47 after the day 1 lynching of leprechaun, the focus then moved over to Jedi. I still stand by the fact we should have lynched 47 so we could see how he flipped and then worked with that new info. Right now, I'm just not sure of Forty's alignment. As I said, Fortyseven is a safe vote, you vote for him, you have nothing to lose. If he flips town, no-one is going to suspect anything.

I can't help who follows me. But I've already explained my reasoning. I put forward my case on Brabbinho who I felt didn't put forward a very good counter. 47 on the other hand did. So I voted Brabbinho.

My motives have always been consistent throughout, I have always put forward cases for discussion, I asked people to look back at the voting to try and generate more discussion, the town is dead unless people talk. So far you are the only one who has responded.
 
@Pudney

Similar to Shami,
No vote Day1 - no big deal, not many did.
Voted Day2 - the last to vote Jedi, followed the crowd, voted when it no longer mattered.
Voted on Day3 - Same as day 2, last to vote Brabbinho.

Similar voting patterns, that's all. I said on day2 I thought you were town, I'm just a little less sure now.
 
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