The 2070S is a great card. But it does not compute, when you have been complaining about performance/$ this whole time and been berating AMD for it.
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OcUK RX5700 and RX5700XT review thread
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The 2070S is a great card. But it does not compute, when you have been complaining about performance/$ this whole time and been berating AMD for it.
Soldato
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Around 10% for 25% more money.
Caporegime
Maybe when big Navi is out that'll be the case.
Caporegime
I've berated them both
5700XT I've consistently said offers better price/performance than Nvidia parts.
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The Navi sharpening tool is going to need dev support, damn 
Looks like we'll see it on just a few AMD games then.
Looks like we'll see it on just a few AMD games then.
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What a bizarre thing to say.
I wouldn't have gone so far as to say 'panic mode' but they were certainly interested enough to take notice and throw out the caper crusader that is the 'super' series.
Tbh the supers had a dual function, response to Navi and address the constant negativity around their pricing.
I'd say that, regardless of which side of the GPU fence you're on, Navi has shaken things up a bit and given shoppers some much needed options.
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vega 64 with blower on this very site 299 nitro plus version 389 for some more clock speed and super cooler, so 90 quid difference. so not far off the 100 quid.
Soldato
The Navi sharpening tool is going to need dev support, damn
Hearing it`ll be baked into the UE engine - its not vendor specific.
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/amd_fidelity_fx_review_-_featuring_rage_2/1
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Not really, I'm talking about 5700/XT AIB cards with proper coolers and any issues ironed out. Vega wsasn't great at launch, they're very good cards now.
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Both EoL though, skews things a bit.
Lol. Is that your proof. Find that one exception and ignore the hundreds of non EoL cards which show nothing of the sort.
I can find much larger differences than £90 if I tried btw. However, they don't represent the market.
Caporegime
Unfortunately we can't see any proper overclocking for the 5700XT.
And then the 2070 doesn't have the same caveats
I'd prefer to pay £400 for what the 2070S offers
Caporegime
I don't share your enthusiasm but fair enough.
Associate
so the web site lies to me. AMD I was looking at. not NV cards. who cares anyway, no matter the extra cooler costs the 2070s will be the better card over all. NV knew that and that's why they launched it. wish it wasn't, but NV must have a spy in the amd camp to go just enough to spoil AMD thunder.
Here you go. You were wrong with £100. The difference from blower cards and AIB cards are actually £160. £400 and £560 respectively.
Is this how you come up with your logic?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zota...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-115-zt.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1ab-gi.html
Maybe we need to add £160 for nvidia cards for AIB models.
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Obviously I don't believe this. I know nvidia AIB markup is minimal apart from the halo models.
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Vega 64 cards were a bit weird in pricing. There was only really 2 models from Sapphire with a stock and high end cooler. Sapphire were talking about bringing a Toxic model to the table. In theory they could be bringing a Nitro,Vapour-x and Toxic this round. Hopefully this is the case and remember Vega cards with HBM are not making to much money. The 5700 card should be making money so more to play with. Look at the Polaris cards for this which don't use HBM. The Nitro cards were only around £30 on top of the Blower card.
When RTX matures, sure ill jump. . but looking at these reviews i think id opt for saving £100 and grabbing the 5700xt over the 2070s personally. Wouldnt blame anybody for wanting to spend the extra though, the S cards look good.
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So you think AMD ones will be 25 quid, ok I hope so for the AMD die hards.
Soldato
Hmmm apparantly the £330 RX 5700 is faster than that £560 RTX 2070 gigabyte card:
https://www.eteknix.com/amd-radeon-rx-5700-5700-xt-graphics-card-review/7/
They never learn their lessons which is the disturbing reality which makes many people angry.
Hot, loud, underperforming, overpriced.