OcUK RX7900 series review thread

[glenimp617]

You guys aren't listening to youtube reviewers are you?

They'll say anything to get views. Views = Money.

 

[ICDP]

These clickbait videos are the problem

They are only a problem if you are stupid enough to watch them.

All my info on both the AMD and NVidia GPUs come from their marketing slides with 10% - 20% cut to remove the cherry picking. This is why I rarely ever post in these GPU speculation thread until we have actual vendor released data.

This usually puts me in the ballpark at +/- 10% for performance and price. So contrary to what some idiots on here fell for, or are pretending they were promised. This and the 40x0 release delivered almost exactly what I expected. GPUs that are all about £350 too expensive and brought the tiering for all subsequent GPUs to stagnation levels of performance for extortionate prices.

With the current price/perf of the so called top tiers, we now face the ultimate “mission accomplished” for NVidia and by default AMD. The replacements for the mid to low tiers will be at best about 15% better price/perf than their predecessor. A 7800 XT will cost more than the 6800 XT and be about 15% faster at best. The 4080 12GB will be renamed to 3070Ti and cost £800 and give barely no more than 3080Ti performance.

Yet we still have some of the usual suspects acting like their favourite football team won, despite being part of a scam that deeply affects all of us. But yeah keep laughing at the perceived poor AMD showing, because you think it means team green won… and that’s all that matters.

 

[Gibbo]

In our testing the built in RAGE overclocking tool caused instability.

When manual overclocking the old fashioned way 3000-3200MHz core overclock seemed possible yielding a 6-10% performance gain.

In our testing it basically trade blows with a 4080, those who want DLS3 and Ray Tracing buy a 4080. Those who want a smaller, traditional power connector, more VRAM and new video encoder buy AMD.

What I will say is I feel as always AMD will gain solid performance gains with drivers updates as this is a totally new technology on very new drivers going head to head against 4080 on very mature drivers, so I’d say RX 7000 series could have some very serious gains with drivers and of course their new feature set which comes into play next year.

I don’t have a crystal ball but when 6800 XT was released 3080 10G kicked it’s ass whereas now the 6800 XT has gained much performance over past year to the point it is far more the 3080 equal. I’d be shocked if RX 7000 series did not have big performance gains in coming months.

 

[Dontrocktheboat]

In our testing the built in RAGE overclocking tool caused instability.

When manual overclocking the old fashioned way 3000-3200MHz core overclock seemed possible yielding a 6-10% performance gain.

In our testing it basically trade blows with a 4080, those who want DLS3 and Ray Tracing buy a 4080. Those who want a smaller, traditional power connector, more VRAM and new video encoder buy AMD.

What I will say is I feel as always AMD will gain solid performance gains with drivers updates as this is a totally new technology on very new drivers going head to head against 4080 on very mature drivers, so I’d say RX 7000 series could have some very serious gains with drivers and of course their new feature set which comes into play next year.

I don’t have a crystal ball but when 6800 XT was released 3080 10G kicked it’s ass whereas now the 6800 XT has gained much performance over past year to the point it is far more the 3080 equal. I’d be shocked if RX 7000 series did not have big performance gains in coming months.

Fine wine AMD drivers, eh Gibbo!

You are just a good salesman.

With a 1,000 stock of 7900 xtx which will be sitting on you shelf I would try and spin this card into something positive too...

 

[ICDP]

Fine wine AMD drivers, eh Gibbo!

You are just a good salesman.

With a 1,000 stock of 7900 xtx which will be sitting on you shelf I would try and spin this card into something positive too...

Wow, you are the ultimate shillbot. I checked your post history and nothing between Oct 2021 until Sunday 11th Dec 2022 (the day before reviews of the 7900). Over a full year between posts and the majority of your ramblings are all about how AMD suck and Nvidia are awesome. So it seems you go into hybernation until a GPU release, then come out of hiding to make nonsensical claims that the new AMD is crap.

Funny how you have nothing at all posted in the RTX 4000 thread, nothing about the 4080 scam prices, or the "unlaunched" 4080 12GB, or the fact 4080s are still in stock every where you look. Or that the 4080 FE versions can sit 3 days in stock before selling out.

If it looks like a duck...

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Because I'm lazy i CBA to read through all the rx7900 stuff but would i be in the ballpark if i said the 7900's are good value for money (cost per frame) when compared to current cards on the market but if you're spending 900-1k on a GPU value for money doesn't really come into it, why spend that on a GPU when you can spend 20% more and get better features.

I can understand why you'd want to save 20% in the mid-range as it can make a big difference there and those extra features aren't much of a value add, but at the high end why not just spend the extra to get the better card (not sure of that makes much sense).

If you're spending 1k+ though you may as well just get the 4090 though as it's not just a tier above these cards but almost a generation when looking at the performance slides.

This argument is terrible, because where does it stop?

Lets start from the 7900 XT what is the cost of that £899?
Well you might as well spend a little more and get the 7900 XTX for £999.
But you might as well spend a little more for the 4080 for £1200.
You're above a grand now so you might as well spend more and get the best of the best for £1600.

Congratulations you've now talked yourself into spending an extra £700 on a graphics card or an extra 80%.

What happens when a 4090ti comes out for £2000. Should people spend a little more and get that instead?

 

[Dontrocktheboat]

Wow, you are the ultimate shillbot. I checked your post history and nothing between Oct 2021 until Sunday 11th Dec 2022 (the day before reviews of the 7900). Over a full year between posts and the majority of your ramblings are all about how AMD suck and Nvidia are awesome. So it seems you go into hybernation until a GPU release, then come out of hiding to make nonsensical claims that the new AMD is crap.

Funny how you have nothing at all posted in the RTX 4000 thread, nothing about the 4080 scam prices, or the "unlaunched" 4080 12GB, or the fact 4080s are still in stock every where you look. Or that the 4080 FE versions can sit 3 days in stock before selling out.

If it looks like a duck...

LoL

Because I wanted to buy the 7900 xtx that's why.

I wanted to love it, I wanted an upgrade from 3090. I wanted something efficient and quick.
Instead we got this.

 

[Twinz]

this is funny

Only 30% of people predicted the real performance of the 7900xtx, but now that reviews are out 70% of people say performance is what they expected or even better than expected

What do you call this type of mental gymnastics?

It may simply be different people?

I don't think he has any way to control or determine what sample of his audience is answering each poll.

 

[ICDP]

This argument is terrible, because where does it stop?

Lets start from the 7900 XT what is the cost of that £899?
Well you might as well spend a little more and get the 7900 XTX for £999.
But you might as well spend a little more for the 4080 for £1200.
You're above a grand now so you might as well spend more and get the best of the best for £1600.

Congratulations you've now talked yourself into spending an extra £700 on a graphics card or an extra 80%.

What happens when a 4090ti comes out for £2000. Should people spend a little more and get that instead?

The irony is it's not even an extra £700 for 80% extra performance, the 4090 is 21% faster at 1080p, 31% faster at 1440p and 45% faster at 4K. The 7900 XT delivers 3090Ti level of performance in raster and only a bit slower in RT. So judged on price/perf it shoots the 4090 out of the water.

Though considering the actual prices, both are extortionate.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

LoL

Because I wanted to buy the 7900 xtx that's why.

I wanted to love it, I wanted an upgrade from 3090. I wanted something efficient and quick.
Instead we got this.

No, no you didn't. You work for some marketing firm that is paid to promote Nvidia on forums. you and that chris85 guy probably sit next to each other in the office.

or you're just that sad.

 

[ICDP]

LoL

Because I wanted to buy the 7900 xtx that's why.

I wanted to love it, I wanted an upgrade from 3090. I wanted something efficient and quick.
Instead we got this.

Then judging against the 3090 you would get about 33% better raster performance, about 10% better RT performance, about the same power consumption and technically it has a lower MSRP.

As a 3090 owner who already accepted scalping prices, the 7900 XTX and RTX 4080 are already an upgrade path from your 3090.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Then judging against the 3090 you would get about 33% better raster performance, about 10% better RT performance, about the same power consumption and technically it has a lower MSRP.

As a 3090 owner who already accepted scalping prices, the 7900 XTX and RTX 4080 are already an upgrade path from your 3090.

That's his next upgrade sorted then. He should be first on the roll of honour list then

 

[Murphy]

This argument is terrible, because where does it stop?

Are you saying both arguments are terrible?

Because I'm saying people typically set a budget and they'll find it easier to justify a small increase in percentage terms if they're getting something more for it, i.e if someone has set a budget of 900 going to 1k maybe something they're willing to stretch to, going from 900 to 1.2k not so much because that's a big jump from up their original budget.

 

[Joxeon]

This argument is terrible, because where does it stop?

Lets start from the 7900 XT what is the cost of that £899?
Well you might as well spend a little more and get the 7900 XTX for £999.
But you might as well spend a little more for the 4080 for £1200.
You're above a grand now so you might as well spend more and get the best of the best for £1600.

Congratulations you've now talked yourself into spending an extra £700 on a graphics card or an extra 80%.

What happens when a 4090ti comes out for £2000. Should people spend a little more and get that instead?

As much as I don't like the price of any of these GPUs if I had to upgrade right now and my usual budget is £800 every generation then I'd pick the 4090 because I'd be less likely to need an upgrade in 2 years time whereas spending 1000-1200 on a XTX/80 would require another 1000-1200 in 2 years time just to match the 4090 in performance.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Are you saying both arguments are terrible?

Because I'm saying people typically set a budget and they'll find it easier to justify a small increase in percentage terms if they're getting something more for it, i.e if someone has set a budget of 900 going to 1k maybe something they're willing to stretch to, going from 900 to 1.2k not so much because that's a big jump from up their original budget.

whoops, I misunderstood your post

 

[Dontrocktheboat]

Then judging against the 3090 you would get about 33% better raster performance, about 10% better RT performance, about the same power consumption and technically it has a lower MSRP.

As a 3090 owner who already accepted scalping prices, the 7900 XTX and RTX 4080 are already an upgrade path from your 3090.

My 3090 overclocks well. On part with 3090ti.
So no, not really. Figures are a bit off.

Slower in RT performance. And about 20-25% in rasta..at best.

Trade off is more power usage in video and multi monitor set up. Something which I do a lot of. It's not the performance that hurts 7900xt the most, its the inefficiency.
Probably down to the chiplet design....

As for 4080 and Nvidia prices, they can do one.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

As much as I don't like the price of any of these GPUs if I had to upgrade right now and my usual budget is £800 every generation then I'd pick the 4090 because I'd be less likely to need an upgrade in 2 years time whereas spending 1000-1200 on a XTX/80 would require another 1000-1200 in 2 years time just to match the 4090 in performance.

Why would you "need" to upgrade in 2 years time?
What are you anticipating will happen in gaming that will cause a large drop in performance? So long as the low-mid end is underpowered and overpriced, gaming requirments will not move much.

 

[Hedge]

LoL

Because I wanted to buy the 7900 xtx that's why.

I wanted to love it, I wanted an upgrade from 3090. I wanted something efficient and quick.
Instead we got this.

Nah you didn't. Your fine wine amd drivers comment makes that pretty clear.

 

[Joxeon]

Why would you "need" to upgrade in 2 years time?
What are you anticipating will happen in gaming that will cause a large drop in performance? So long as the low-mid end is underpowered and overpriced, gaming requirments will not move much.

Well regardless of when you come to upgrade the 4090 will give you at least an extra 2 years over the 4080/7900XTX.

 

[Chud_Jenny]

Hi there

Sapphire MBA design is where 99% of our stock sits, available from 2pm tomorrow:
7900 XT @ £899
7900 XTX @ £1049

Looking like the XTX direct $ to £ should be £979 today MSRP?