Off work ill

I have a rubbish immune system.

I get everything and stuff that other people can work with floors me.

It's a fun side effect of being asthmatic I think.

I think over a year it probably averages out to 3-4 days off sick.

I never take days off sick to not be infectious (tbh, I don't care. Nobody else extends me the same courtesy) but if I'm going to be sick enough to be unable to do my job I'll usually take a day off to get over it properly.

Don't feel even a little bit guilty tbh. I check my colleagues work and catch their mistakes which would cost the company money. Nobody checks my work. If my work is wrong it costs the company money.

Unsure what extra value I am providing by being sat there in a chair doing rubbish work which is going to wind up costing us money in returns.
 
I suffer from crippling sore heads ( 24 hour migraine ) that praticaly floor me but in the last 12 months ive only had 3 days off sick and in the last 24 months 7 days. So when I see people who are perfectly healthy had random sick days off but come in the next day like there is absolutly nothing wrong with them and nothing is done anoys the hell outta me
 
If you're ill you're ill. Some people never get ill, others do. I used to suffer from migraines in my twenties and would cause me the odd days illness here and there - the worst kind when looking at a sickness record - but there was nothing I could do about it and we never found a trigger. The wife's also a teacher so ended up with a fair few vomiting bugs as well in my time.

Someone elses illness is none of your business. Let HR or the business owner worry about it and keep your nose out.
 
I don't know how or why people go off long term sick(when you don't need to). It's boring as hell, as you don't have money to do stuff. It kills career progression etc. We've got one person who's been off for almost two years, comes back every now and then for a few weeks. then goes off again. Had 5 weeks off with a broken sternum almost 4 years ago, before that it was a week off for food poisoning must be getting on for 8 years ago.
 
I'd like to address those who gave the roll eyes to people like me & others who come into work when we have a sniffle or a slight tummy bug. I do agree with you but here's a few scenarios that happen every day in working life:

Scenario One

Hi John, I hear you had a cold yesterday, you Ok now?
Yes
2 months later
Hi John, you had yesterday off with a tummy bug and you took a day off 2 months ago so this is your first verbal warning
OK
2 months later
Hi John, I can see your eyes are still flared up from hay fever but having yesterday off means I have to give you your second verbal warning
Fair enough
3 months later
I hear you had another day off with the squits from both ends but I'm sorry to say I have to give you your first written warning.
Bugger
3 months later
You know why you're here, I know you were in A&E all day with broken fingers but here's your second written warning.
1 month later
Here's your P45


Scenario Two

Hi John, I know you had yesterday off but we've had to take you off the forklifts that I know you love and you're on packing now

Scenario Three with John the Zero Hours Worker

Ring Ring
Hi John, I hear you've got a cold but the thing is we don't need you for the rest of this week, see you on Monday.

Scenario Four - John gets a job with Amazon

(This was on a documentary)

Hi John, you know why you're here, you've got one infraction because you went home 2 hours early yesterday with sickness BUT I'm afraid it's two infractions because you clocked on 3 minutes late last Friday. You now have one last chance over the next month.

Hope you enjoyed that but it goes some way to show what some people have to put up with.
 
Hope you enjoyed that but it goes some way to show what some people have to put up with.

And people wonder why trade union membership has gone up two years in a row.

I've said it before, the best way to destroy the trade union movement is for employers to behave reasonably.
 
I've said it before, the best way to destroy the trade union movement is for employers to behave reasonably.

Problem is there is no balance - for all their faults my employer is pretty decent (in terms of not being over the top discipline wise) when it comes to sickness and turning up late the problem is instead of people respecting that they abuse the **** out of it :|
 
And people wonder why trade union membership has gone up two years in a row.

I've said it before, the best way to destroy the trade union movement is for employers to behave reasonably.

What do you think trade unions will do? Sod all? Most militant union. and they agree with scenario 1 and thats what's implemented.
 
I know I am sick of covering for the same faces that are always off sick.

The sickies always seem to know the law better than the management and can take their annual paid allotted sick time up to the day like holidays.

Wouldn't be half as bad if they weren't the ones always being promoted and getting the bonuses but they seem to have that sorted too.
 
What do you think trade unions will do? Sod all? Most militant union. and they agree with scenario 1 and thats what's implemented.

Well, you get bad reps and you get good reps.

None of my members ever got sacked for being off sick :p

Wouldn't be half as bad if they weren't the ones always being promoted and getting the bonuses but they seem to have that sorted too.

If you've got a member of staff giving you a headache, what do you do? You promote them, then they are someone elses problem. ;)
 
No it isn't. You can get of on technicalities. The policy however is sanctioned by the union, when it was introduced and if it is followed there's nothing you can do to prevent someone being fired. 99% of the time policy is not flooded properly as they pay HR department 10p a year. Where HR should be one of the most highly trained departments in any company.
 
No it isn't. You can get of on technicalities. The policy however is sanctioned by the union, when it was introduced and if it is followed there's nothing you can do to prevent someone being fired. 99% of the time policy is not flooded properly as they pay HR department 10p a year. Where HR should be one of the most highly trained departments in any company.

I know a rep at your place, trust me, the rules can be bent ;-)
 
I've had some managers who don't believe you can be so ill as you can't get into work but only need 1 day off and that your either well enough to drag yourself in or so ill you need several days off :|

Funny how people in general are so stupid when it comes to sickness, either abusing the system or closed minded view of toughing it (that they often don't apply to themselves) with the usual end result of making it worse on people who are genuine.

I have had managers say this to me before. I just said that if i take one day off its because i am sick that doesn't mean that when i come back to work i am well again. It just means i am over the worst of it and pushing through it because i am so dedicated like him and come to work no matter what. Like those guys that come in to work and everyone at work is telling him to go home and he's all like "no i am all right".
 
I know a rep at your place, trust me, the rules can be bent ;-)

However if the policy gets bent for one person then others staff will expect it so that is real dodgy ground.
What you probably mean is something like a bloke I was representing who was on his final written warning and ended up having 3 months off but he'd spent some of it in ICU and the rest in hospital after being hit on his cycle by a 4x4.
They let him stay on his final.

Like those guys that come in to work and everyone at work is telling him to go home and he's all like "no i am all right".

but some people are because they have a very high resistance to illness.
Some people get 'man flu' and others get a slight cold when all they've got is a slight cold.
 
Where I work you actually encouraged to stay at home if you're ill (like I did the last 2 days). There's nothing worse than having a coughing, sneezing, spluttering mess beside you while you're trying to speak to a client.

Because my employers shows us respect and trusts us enough to make a judgement on whether we should be in the office or not that respect is repaid by nobody (well, nobody with a chance of a career here) taking the urine.
 
Public Sector by any chance?
Ahh yes, mind you I'd be on a hell of a lot more money if I was private sector so it's swings and roundabouts.

"Lives" are what happen on a day to day basis, not a week holiday in Greece here and there...
Working isn't life, working is just time wasted to fund life. You should always spend as little time working as is humanly possible so you can spend as much time enjoying this existence.
 
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