'Offensive' Humor

I do not identify with people that get offended. I don't see myself as a bad person.

I have never taken offence to anything in my entire life. As such, I can enjoy "offensive" content, well in honesty I don't even categorise stuff as offensive, it's either good or rubbish.
 
hmmm offensive jokes.....

in some instances i say the more offensive the better! though for some reason, while generalised offensive jokes are ok i often find it extremely offensive when comedians begin using specific people in their jokes i think that's out of order - think Frankie Boyle and Jordans son Harvey.

for some reason, for me personally, it is ok to have a laugh at illnesses/disorders etc but when you start to using specific people with those illness/disorders to make your jokes then that is a bit much
 
The keyword here being 'can'. It doesn't automatically mean that it does.

You have completely misunderstood my position.

In your case, the humour would be evidence of social bonding as opposed to overt prejudice, no?

If I've misunderstood your position then apologies, but:

a racist joke implies racist prejudice.

Seems pretty clear :p

I'd argue that you can't make judgements on a person's character (other than their sense of humour) based solely on the type of jokes they make.

Who they make them to/how they make them perhaps (e.g. only an idiot or insensitive muppet would make a joke about 11/9 to someone who lost a friend or relative in the attacks), but in that case it's not the actual joke that's the issue.

It's similar to insults really - I could be playing a game online with a friend and call them a ****ing **** if they beat me in a cheeky way - I certainly wouldn't be calling random people in the street (or my work colleagues) ****ing ****s!!
 
I can joke about pretty much anything, no matter what, but I don't think that makes me a bad person. I'm just one of these who does not get offended by anything and I think it annoys me slightly that other people do get offended. I just think what's the point? I suppose I should probably be more careful though - don't want to hurt people's precious feelings!

Yes, same here really.

I just don't really 'understand' why some people decide a particular joke is offensive when it is clearly intended without malice. It's not so much the content itself but I just don't think they consider the context and just because it's a controversial topic, it immediately becomes offensive :o

I even had someone tell me that people shouldn't make jokes about Madeleine McCann because it's no laughing matter but they were quite happy to laugh at "Your Mom" jokes and 9/11 jokes :rolleyes:
 
Yes, same here really.

I just don't really 'understand' why some people decide a particular joke is offensive when it is clearly intended without malice. It's not so much the content itself but I just don't think they consider the context and just because it's a controversial topic, it immediately becomes offensive :o

I even had someone tell me that people shouldn't make jokes about Madeleine McCann because it's no laughing matter but they were quite happy to laugh at "Your Mom" jokes and 9/11 jokes :rolleyes:

What... like

"It wasn't the plane hitting the WTC that caused it to collapse, it was your mum on the top floor!" ? :p
 
Funny enough, I got chastised for using the word "****" at work yesterday. I said it to a colleague in the context of "Stop acting like a ****". I wasn't born in this country, so had no idea that it was a bad word. I said in reply to my rebuke that I thought it was just a synonym for "retard", at which point I was also told that wasn't a polite word.

I replied by saying I would never call a handicapped person a retard, but I would use it to describe someone who is "normal" that is acting daft - heck I am one of the biggest proponents for enabling handicapped people.

The point is, a joke is just a joke. People need to stop being offended for others. You can also use comedy to bring issues into the social conscious. I won't stop my somewhat offensive humour, as those who know me, know I am one of the most understanding, compassionate, empathetic people in the world.

By the way - Mods, if you deem the words above to be inappropriate, please feel free to remove them, as I'm unsure whether they break the rules regarding swearing / offensive behaviour.

I find it strange that you think it's acceptable to refer to a colleague as a retard.
 
I started watching South Park whilst I was quite young. I remember when I was in Year 4 I stumbled across my cousins South Park VHS which had Starvin Marvin and Mechastreisand on. I watched those and was hooked on South Park ever since. Coupled with listening to Eddie Murphy's stand ups on CD far younger than I ever should've.

I think that has shaped my humour in to thinking that nothing is exempt from being laughed at.
 
I find it strange that you think it's acceptable to refer to a colleague as a retard.

try working with some of my colleagues and you find nothing strange about it. plus he didn't call them a retard.....he called them a ****, maybe he was implying they were Mongolian!? :p
 
I'd argue that you can't make judgements on a person's character (other than their sense of humour) based solely on the type of jokes they make

In terms of an accurate and fair judgement of a person, I agree. However, in psychological terms of framing and associative cognition, it can lead to certain stereotypes.

For example, a racist joke does not make someone racist; it's the intent behind it. The real information is behind the words.

If someone makes a bad joke out of ignorance, that doesn't make them a 'bad' person. If they made an inappropriate joke when they knew it would be inappropriate and to cause offence, you'd have to ask what the motives really were. Why does this person want to cause offence? Is it to ridicule and point out an absurdity? Is it because they lack empathy?

Someone's sense of humour can be a clue as to what kind of person they are but you have to read between the lines.
 
You have to just let it go I think.

I was at a Jim Jeffries gig at The Fringe and halfway through his set he made a joke about a miscarried baby or a dead baby; something along those lines.... All of a sudden this woman got up, approached the stage and started screaming at him, we couldn't hear what she was saying but her partner was stood a few feet behind waving his arms with clenched fists etc. I felt bad for the couple, it must have touched a nerve, but he destroyed them in a few seconds.

For the 30 minutes preceeding this outburst they had been laughing about rape, child abuse, islam, drug addiction, all the stuff Jim Jeffries does so well, but had flipped at this particular subject. He basically said you don't get to choose what to be offended about in comedy - you can't laugh at this, this and this, but get on your high horse about the one subject that affects you. He told them XXXX off and never come to one of his gigs again.

Biggest round of applause of the evening.

Like I said - felt a little bad for them, it must have hit a nerve, but his point was perfect.
 
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Offense is taken not given

If the joke is in good taste and not intended to be malicious toward anyone then I dont see the problem.

People who get offended easily are those who allow words to have power over them. Whats is a word? Words only mean somthing when we attach a meaning to them. Thefore its should be more about the intent behind the word rather than the word itself.
 
You have to just let it go I think.

I was at a Jim Jeffries gig at The Fringe and halfway through his set he made a joke about a miscarried baby or a dead baby; something along those lines.... All of a sudden this woman got up, approached the stage and started screaming at him, we couldn't hear what she was saying but her partner was stood a few feet behind waving his arms with clenched fists etc. I feel bad for the couple, it must have touched a nerve, but he destroyed them in a few seconds.

For the 30 minutes preceeding this outburst they had been laughing about rape, child abuse, islam, drug addiction, all the stuff Jim Jeffries does so well, but had flipped at this particular subject. He basically said you don't get to choose what to be offended about in comedy - you can't laugh at this, this and this, but get on your high horse about the one that affects you.

Biggest round of applause of the evening.

Like I said - felt a little bad for them, must have hit a nerve, but his point was perfect.
Spot on, you can't spend your evening laughing at stuff other people have had the misfortune of experiencing and then flipping out when it's a bit closer to home.
 
My 'claim to fame' with regard to this was back when I was captain of a football team.

Post-match banter in the changing rooms, our black striker was first in the shower (as always) swinging his tool around telling and showing everybody the size, and explaining what he will do to us white boys once we join him in the shower. This prompted all sorts of responses such as 'go back home on the banana boat you came from', etc. The banter back and forth went on for quite some time.

I then had to put a stop to it, it was getting out of hand.

'C'mon lads calm down, we are all mates here, and I for one will not have any form of racism in this team, I personally have nothing against black people... I think everyone should own one'

Our striker was not happy.
 
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