Offical PSP2 (or rather NGP) Thread

Tute · 31 Jan 2011 at 11:11

I just... don't want this stuff on my PSP. If I wanted touch screen this and tilt that, i'd get a DS (or just play on the girlfriend's one). I bought my PSP so I could get a Final Fantasy, FIFA or even GTA fix on the train or other similar journey.

I always felt the PSP was the "pure" handheld gaming machine to the DS's "quirky and different". But Sony seem determined to blur the lines. I don't really understand why.

Things change I've changed · 31 Jan 2011 at 11:22

Tute said:
I just... don't want this stuff on my PSP. If I wanted touch screen this and tilt that, i'd get a DS (or just play on the girlfriend's one). I bought my PSP so I could get a Final Fantasy, FIFA or even GTA fix on the train or other similar journey.

I always felt the PSP was the "pure" handheld gaming machine to the DS's "quirky and different". But Sony seem determined to blur the lines. I don't really understand why.

Did you watch the event?, practically every game they showed was a 'core' game, Uncharted, Resistance, Killzone, COD etc, Epic showing off the unreal engine 3 and also saying "this system is ideal for a gears of war like experience", (exact quote bty) due to the dual stick controls, Sony was blatantly pitching this system as a hardcore gaming platform.

Also at the same time the system offers unique capacitive multi-touch touch controls that 'can' be incorporated into games or be the sole control mechanism for unique smaller game experiences like Flower for example, think what 'That Game Company' could come up with on a system like this.

Also everybody that played Uncharted for example said they you didn't have to use any of the touch controls if you didn't want to so I wouldn't worry, personally I love the idea of the device having touch screen for ease of use for the store, web browsing, os navigation, in game user interfaces etc.

DBT85 · 31 Jan 2011 at 12:54

Tute said:
I always felt the PSP was the "pure" handheld gaming machine to the DS's "quirky and different". But Sony seem determined to blur the lines. I don't really understand why.

Mostly because you, I and most people on the internets are not their only customers. They sold a ton of PSPs but outside of Japan game sales have been awful. They have sat back and watched as the DS was able to capitalise on the mums and aunts who want to play brain training by poking the screen. It could have been made for the PSP but wouldn't have been near as intuitive.

For Sony to look after themselves long term they have to try and get into both segments. The price is probably going to keep them out in the short term but because of the tech they are using fab costs could come down fairly rapidly allowing them to get it into a more family friendly price point. More unit sales means more chance for devs to make more money on games, devs make more money on games and they will make more games.

With the NGP it's really win win for the core gamer as far as I can see.

sarge78 · 31 Jan 2011 at 13:21

Todge said:
mums and aunts who want to play brain training by poking the screen.

100+ million smartphone sales in Q4 2010... Mums and Aunts have started playing those games on phones. Sony, Nintendo, Apple and everyone else knows this.

lowrider007 said:
Also everybody that played Uncharted for example said they you didn't have to use any of the touch controls if you didn't want to so I wouldn't worry, personally I love the idea of the device having touch screen for ease of use for the store, web browsing, os navigation, in game user interfaces etc.

Exactly, you get all the benefits of a capacitive tablet/polished OS and the traditional Playstation experience. Perfect!

I'm guessing we'll see similar tegra 3 based portables in a year or two. (Prays for Atari Lynx 3 and Valve working on a mobile Steam client

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Edit:

Todge said:
More unit sales means more chance for devs to make more money on games, devs make more money on games and they will make more games.

Game devs have never had it so good... They can develop a game and deploy it across ARM based devices within weeks (see dungeon defenders, Need for speed etc)

K1LLSW1TCH · 31 Jan 2011 at 13:38

I thought this was using a 4 core cell processor?

sarge78 · 31 Jan 2011 at 13:46

K1LLSW1TCH said:
I thought this was using a 4 core cell processor?

Nope, it's (probably) ST Ericsson's U8500 quadcore ARM A9, which was being sampled/tested back in 09/10.

DBT85 · 31 Jan 2011 at 14:52

sarge78 said:
100+ million smartphone sales in Q4 2010... Mums and Aunts have started playing those games on phones. Sony, Nintendo, Apple and everyone else knows this.

I don't know any woman over 35 with a smartphone. They almost all have a DS though. They rarely want to surf the web, get directions, etc. All of them much prefer a simple phone that does texts and calls.

jonneymendoza · 31 Jan 2011 at 15:47

And one that doesnt run out of battery every 5mins

K1LLSW1TCH · 31 Jan 2011 at 15:56

Why are we discussing phones in this thread anyway?

WatchTower · 31 Jan 2011 at 16:58

Why is Sony teasing us with the NGP (Neo Geo Pocket lol) now? I've seen it and I want it now. I gotta wait 11 months. Cry

sarge78 · 31 Jan 2011 at 21:59

K1LLSW1TCH said:
Why are we discussing phones in this thread anyway?

The NGP has been designed to be the pinnacle of Playstation suite, it's all about ecosystems now

badcompany · 31 Jan 2011 at 22:09

I hardly touch my PS3 now but can see me using this more often

K1LLSW1TCH · 1 Feb 2011 at 00:23

sarge78 said:
The NGP has been designed to be the pinnacle of Playstation suite, it's all about ecosystems now

WatchTower said:
Why is Sony teasing us with the NGP (Neo Geo Pocket lol) now? I've seen it and I want it now. I gotta wait 11 months. Cry

It single handedly made me cancel my 3DS pre-order... I was so excited for the 3DS too.

Oh well I could always get both.

Sinny · 1 Feb 2011 at 01:35

K1LLSW1TCH said:
It single handedly made me cancel my 3DS pre-order... I was so excited for the 3DS too.

Oh well I could always get both.

you do realise their atleast a 6 month wait before the NGP hits?

3DS > NGP though I'm getting both ;D

badcompany · 1 Feb 2011 at 09:18

when is it out ? This year?

DBT85 · 1 Feb 2011 at 10:28

badcompany said:
when is it out ? This year?

almost 100% yes in Japan.

They also seem to want to land in the EU and US this year also because obviously Christmas is a massive seller for them, but its rare to have enough units at launch to be able to.

Dutch Guy · 1 Feb 2011 at 12:14

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/67335

The idea of UMD > NGP Flash isn't totally dead.

Hugest_UK · 3 Feb 2011 at 20:12

Got to love Sony's slick marketing:

*dont think this has been posted before.

badcompany · 3 Feb 2011 at 20:31

I think I need one of these asap.

DBT85 · 3 Feb 2011 at 20:33

Dutch Guy said:
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/67335

The idea of UMD > NGP Flash isn't totally dead.

I think they mentioned that on the opening day or two. Its not going to pacify those that bought the UMDs though as there still wont be a trade in programme.

really looking forward to GDC and E3 for mroe details and stuff.

I'm honestly not holding out hope for a release in the EU this year though.