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Campos Meta Team - TBA - Cosworth
Bruno Senna
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Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro - TBA - Ferrari
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa

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Giancarlo Fisichella

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Force India F1 Team - VJM03[17] - Mercedes
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Lotus F1 Team - TBA - Cosworth
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Manor Grand Prix - TBA - Cosworth
Timo Glock
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Vodafone McLaren Mercedes - MP4-25 - Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button

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Mercedes Grand Prix - TBA -Mercedes
Nico Rosberg
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Red Bull Racing - RB6 - Renault
Sebastian Vettel[
Mark Webber

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Renault F1 Team - R30 - Renault
Robert Kubica
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Scuderia Toro Rosso - TBA - TBA
Sébastien Buemi
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Team US F1 - TBA -Cosworth
Jose Maria Lopez
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AT&T Williams - FW32 - Cosworth
Rubens Barrichello
Nico Hulkenberg

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2010 Calendar
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2010 Rule Changes
  • Refuelling ban
  • Minimum car weight will be increased from 605 kg to 620 kg
  • Qaulifying: 8 cars will drop out of the first qualifying session, 8 from the second and as in 2009, 10 cars will shoot-out for pole in the third session. The third session will now be run in low-fuel configuration due to the refuelling ban
  • Wheel covers Banned
  • Kers allowed but FOTA agreement not to use it
 
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FIA say Ferrari contractual have to race. Ferrari on the other hand says no such contract exists.

FOTA teams get entries but row goes on
All the current ten Formula 1 teams have received entries for the 2010 world championship - but the controversy is set to rumble on with five squads given a week to drop conditions or lose their slots, and another three likely to object to being entered.

The FIA has also announced that Spanish team Campos Grand Prix, Peter Windsor and Ken Anderson's Team US F1 and surprise candidate Manor Grand Prix have been granted the additional three entries, at the expense of favourites like Lola and David Richards' Prodrive organisation.

Williams and Force India automatically took places in the field having submitted unconditional entries last week.

Red Bull, Ferrari and Toro Rosso also have unconditional places on the list - but this is set to cause further argument, with the FIA expected to insist that all three teams have committed themselves via contracts they signed with the FIA and FOM several years ago.

Ferrari had already indicated that it would take action if the FIA went down this route.

The other five 2009 teams - Brawn, McLaren, Renault, Toyota and BMW Sauber - all appear with provisional entries and are being invited to remove the conditions agreed by the FOTA alliance or face being ejected from the 2010 list.

"These five teams have submitted conditional entries," said an FIA statement.

"The FIA has invited them to lift those conditions following further discussions to be concluded not later than close of business on Friday 19 June."

The statement added that other new teams were being lined up in the event that agreement was not reached with the provisional entrants.

"Pending completion of the discussions referred to above, further due diligence is currently taking place on other potential entries," it said.

Lola, Prodrive, Team Superfund, Spanish constructor Epsilon Euskadi and organisations using the Brabham, Lotus and March names were among the currently unsuccessful applicants for 2010 places.
 
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Brabham were never going to get it. The Brabham family had lodged legal proceedings as they have nothing to do with it and did not agree for them to use their name.
 
Prodrive, Lola still hopeful of 2010 slots
Prodrive and Lola say they will be ready to step into the breach for 2010 if the FIA cannot reach agreement with the FOTA teams within the next week.

Cosworth delighted with F1 return
Cosworth says it is delighted to be returning to Formula 1 in 2010 after the legendary manufacturer was confirmed as the engine supplier for the three new teams entering the sport next year.
 
because they created f1, hold all the rights to everything. Including circuits, tv and everything else. if their is a break away series (which I doubt will happen) You can bet 90+% of those circuits are tied into some contractual agreement not to let them race their. Max & bernie are not stupid and they love their contracts.
 
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=46124
Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo expects his team to be in some form of Formula 1 series next year - but reiterated that it will either be an FIA championship altered to FOTA's liking, or a breakaway rival led by the teams.

Carmakers in F1 breakaway warning
All 10 current Formula 1 teams have been included on the list of entrants for the 2010 season, though five of those are on a conditional basis.

But this happens every few years. I see no reason why this won't end up like all teh others in no more than a shouting match and Max changes just enough rules to keep them in F1.
 
dannyjo22 said:
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_feature_item.php?fes_art_id=38176

A great piece on the boredom F1 still is and F1 slowly dieing on it's backside.
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Trouble is you are never going to get racing back like that. You can't change to rubbish brake compounds or make the cars rubbish. That isn't what F1 is about. Also then all the brakes and other parts on the lower series would be better than F1 cars.

Love the idea of one drum of fuel and they can do anything they like. Totally agree that there is no innovation, which is an essential part of F1.
 
FIA rejects FOTA's financial proposal
The FIA says it will press ahead with its planned £40m budget cap in Formula 1 next year after rejecting alternative cost-cutting proposals put to it by the Formula One Teams’ Association
FIA 'surprised' by carmakers' hostility
The FIA has expressed surprise at the hostility to the way it is running Formula 1 from the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA) – insisting its cost-cutting agenda chimes with the needs of Europe’s recession-battered car industry.
FIA: FOTA faction is sabotaging deal
The FIA has accused a hardline faction within the Formula One Teams’ Association of deliberately preventing a resolution to the row over rules and governance that has engulfed F1.
 
Alonso would race in rebel series
Renault's two-time world champion Fernando Alonso says he will race in a breakaway series if his team do not sign up for the 2010 Formula 1 season
FOTA meets on Thursday
Members of the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) are meeting on Thursday in order to discuss the FIA's final offer with regards to the ongoing dispute between the two parties. FIA president Max Mosley made clear to teams on Wednesday that he is willing to search for a compromise, albeit with a budget cap remaining, as the teams discuss the final proposal offered by the governing body.
USF1... not a Mickey mouse outfit
Another Letter from Mosley
 
dannyjo22 said:
Hilarious stuff. The breakaway is posturing and even if it happened it would fail. The teams need someone to control them as they cannot ever agree on anything. Where would they race. Who would televise it and the media is way too canny to start backing it. Any critism of F1 and your media/paddock pass gets removed.
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As I said in the other thread, it's just a chess move. However I don't agree. they want transparency. The rules would be clear and the same rules apply to every one.
 
The teams will take the sponsorship and fans with them. especially as the drivers have said they will stay with the teams. The thing is FOTA has been doing well over the last year and have all agreed on ways to cut costs and help new teams. No reason why this can't carry on.

Max is still refusing to extended today deadline. So this evening could be very interesting.
 
Pigeon said:
Now they have a whole load of work to set up and run a new series with the 8 teams. Will they field more cars each - how will the car at the back feel about being left behind, how will everyone feel about a Ferrari 1-2-3. Will they have customer cars, how will the other manufacturers feel about there car being beaten and their coverage being sidelined by 4-6+ Ferraris? Will they be able to hold it together with the manufacturers who are only here to promote their car sales. How will they attract new teams with the higher costs - look at the last few years only Super Aguri made the grid with help from Honda!
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If it goes ahead I would imagine it would be almost identical to this year, with just a few tweaks. No reason why they couldn't invite new teams in and supply customer parts.
 
YAY go fia ***** *****

It's not what the sport needs or wants. Just back down and agree to one set of rules and a budget of about 150mill, half that what they are spending this year.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Come off it anyone can bang a list of tracks together, whose paying for all this the teams?
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I don't think it will happen. but there is no reason the teams and sponsor can not bankroll. it afterall nearly all the manufacturers, drivers and sponsors will go.

I'm sure they realise they can not "run" it themselfs and will appoint someone like the fia. Just with better contracts to ensure the teams have far more say on rules and of course more money.
 
  • US F1 hints at exciting new backers
    US F1 joint boss Peter Windsor has promised that the new North Carolina-based Formula 1 team will boast a '21st century' sponsor package, and refused to deny that video website YouTube will be among its backers.
  • Campos still on course without cap
    New Formula 1 team boss Adrian Campos says the loss of the budget cap as part of the resolution of the FIA versus FOTA row should not be a problem for his project - although he admitted that he was keen to see the final 2010 rules as soon as possible.
  • What is virgin Doing in F1?
    The recent report that Virgin has bought a stake in the Manor F1 team is the latest in a series of strange manoeuvres which the company has pulled off in the sport.
  • The real reason F1 will never get a budget cap
    Over a recent dinner in London Tony Purnell, the FIA's technical consultant, told Pitpass business editor Chris Sylt that personnel in the FIA had scratched their heads long and hard over why the FOTA teams had been so opposed to a budget cap in F1. According to Purnell, the FIA brainstormed all manner of weird and wonderful possible reasons but in the end none seemed to stand out as being likely. After the dinner Sylt gave it some thought and soon figured out what it appears the FIA had failed to do: as ever, follow the money.
 
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