Poll: Official 2023 United States Grand Prix Thread - Circuit of the Americas, Austin - Round 19

[Mesai]

Except they pitted Tsunoda to do exactly the same thing and he got it... So it's hardly tinfoil hat is it.


Indeed. Like I've said 3 times in this thread the track looked bumpy for everyone. Every chance it could have affected everyone's floors, or at least a high proportion.

Yea, to get points for the WCC, which earns them money...do you only watch Lewis's onboard for the full race?

 

[chrismscotland]

I don't get all the hate for AT trying to get fastest lap, Tsunoda had no chance of 9th but a gap to stay 10th, that point is worth a lot to AT

 

[chrismscotland]

*Randomly after liaising with Horner

Tinfoil hat time in the Motorsport thread today I see

 

[Mesai]

If you aren't checking every car, it should be a fine not DSQ.

Fines do very little, but maybe a penalty. Ultimately the cars were out of spec and should be DQ'd.

 

[Scam]

Yea, to get points for the WCC, which earns them money...do you only watch Lewis's onboard for the full race?

Take your blinkers off for a minute mate, I'm agreeing with you. It's not tinfoil hat time because they're entitled to do it for the points and it makes sense to support their main RB team

(Of course, whether or not Horner and co should be allowed a sister team under the same ownership, is another matter...)

 

[413x]

Fines do very little, but maybe a penalty. Ultimately the cars were out of spec and should be DQ'd.

For me, if you are randomly checking and a car gets DSQed, you should absolutely check every other car. I mean it has the potential for half the field to be DSQed.

It could change the championship. Easily.

I agree it should be a DSQ.. But only if you check. Everyone after finding something

 

[Jono8]

"A physical floor and a plank wear inspection was carried out on car numbers 01, 16, 44 and 04."

The list of things checked is quite long. My beef is the nature of how this check was done in particular under these circumstances as this track on a sprint weekend. It's a very bumpy track. You've supposedly randomly* checked 4 cars. You've then found 50% of that sample size to be at fault. Given that this was the ONLY check failed throughout a vast list of checks, surely you then go and check every car's floor?
Why single out 2 cars? On that basis, half the pack may have had floors too worn away and then they could have taken the opportunity to wave it this week due to exceptional circumstances, unless they particularly want to disqualify half the grid. It would be a bad look for F1.

*Randomly after liaising with Horner

FIA: "hm, Lewis getting too close to Max again and likely now going to beat Perez to p2 in the championship. Better help out Red Bull again to help them win"

 

[Mesai]

For me, if you are randomly checking and a car gets DSQed, you should absolutely check every other car. I mean it has the potential for half the field to be DSQed.

It could change the championship. Easily.

I agree it should be a DSQ.. But only if you check. Everyone after finding something

I definitely agree that checks should extend to the rest of the grid when it's in 50% of the sample size.

It was mentioned earlier in the thread but cars are being disassembled right after the race, although something like the plank should be in inventory and made available for further review.

 

[413x]

Thought I saw horner with the sand paper around LHs car at the end of the race.

 

[413x]

I definitely agree that checks should extend to the rest of the grid when it's in 50% of the sample size.

It was mentioned earlier in the thread but cars are being disassembled right after the race, although something like the plank should be in inventory and made available for further review.

Not sure how they do it. But couldn't it just be weighed before and after?.. Maybe it can't. I dunno.
I'm genuinely surprised they sample the grid for this stuff.

 

[Mesai]

Not sure how they do it. But couldn't it just be weighed before and after?.. Maybe it can't. I dunno.
I'm genuinely surprised they sample the grid for this stuff.

I'm guessing it's a lot of overhead and checking all of the cars would take forever, especially with a double-header. You'd imagine they could do common checks across the board though like the plank or fuel.

 

[Jono8]

Has anyone ever been disqualified after the race for this in recent memory?

 

[UTmaniac]

I can't remember the last time a car got DQed for failing plank test, nevermind two in the same race.

 

[Jono8]

I can't remember the last time a car got DQed for failing plank test, nevermind two in the same race.

So surely if the FIA had any sense they may realise it could be track specific...

 

[Stumble Bum]

Thank god they checked Max's car as well. Imagine the crying on here if they didn't.

 

[koolpc]

Merc did arrive with a new floor...thats where the issue was? Makes sense then that they found an error and they deservedly got disqualified...

 

[Jono8]

Merc did arrive with a new floor...thats where the issue was? Makes sense then that they found an error and they deservedly got disqualified...

Did Ferrari have a new floor also?

 

[Jono8]

"At the moment it feels like it’s better suited to a rally car," said race-winner Verstappen of the COTA surface.


Hm, FIA if 50% of your sample size showed excessive wear to the plank (from two completely different teams), and the driver's have described the surface to be more like a rally track, maybe...just maybe the problem could be the track?

 

[Hawk Tuah]

So surely if the FIA had any sense they may realise it could be track specific...

Of course it's track specific. That's why other teams had to raise their ride height for the circuit to ensure they'd meet the regulation.

 

[koolpc]

Did Ferrari have a new floor also?

No idea