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Official 7950 Benchmarks Thread

HD 7970, standard beats 580 3gb by a country mile
HD 7970, overclocked, destroys 580 and beats 590
HD 7950, standard competes with 580 but uses less power
HD 7950, overclocked destroys 580

Nvidia fanboiiis derping in this thread like Easyrider & co = blatantly butthurt, Kepler is just a rumour, and could even fail, even if they put prices in the stratosphere.

The argument about not overclocking is above said fanboiis last attempt to clutch at straws. LOL

Sadly the positives are just being forgotten IMO. Posting a Battlefield 3 benchmark comparison is an incredibly lame attempt at rubbishing the 7 series. Infact, according to Bit-tech a stock 580 is 2FPS faster than a 7950.

2FPS. Wow, how crap these new cards really are ! I mean, I could simply post something like this of course...

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And provide a heavily concussive slap to Nvidia fanboys. Then, simply pretend that that's the only benchmark result in the world from putting a 580 against a 7950. That poor, poor GTX 590. It must be weeping in computers everywhere.

But of course, doing such a thing smacks of desperate. There is, of course, a bigger picture. An honest, large sweeping technicolour picture.


Thanks for the info :). Seems hardly worth the headache when you think about it.

My main aim in life is just to be as frank and honest as I can. Custom PC did an article on these "so called green" products a while back, and it was made quite clear that they really ain't all that. I mean you're literally talking overall TDPs in the single figures compared to other parts without the green label or something stupid like the "LPE" (low power edition) titles given to such products.
 
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So Sandybridge success was based on stock performance?

Really, you're splitting my sides here with that kind of comedy :rolleyes:

Yep, it did. They destroyed the previous gen in performance, price and power usage. I still run my 2500k at stock at the moment even though it will do 4.5 with the smallest of voltage bumps, as there is no need for the extra power for gaming or browsing at the moment.

Don't forget sandy is not just the "K" series and you can't even overclock on the H61 boards and they still sell very well.

To think the success of the sandy range was because of the overclockabilty (made up words for the win) of the 2500k and 2700k alone is a joke.
 
HD 7970, standard beats 580 3gb by a country mile
HD 7970, overclocked, destroys 580 and beats 590
HD 7950, standard competes with 580 but uses less power
HD 7950, overclocked destroys 580

Nvidia fanboiiis derping in this thread like Easyrider & co = blatantly butthurt, Kepler is just a rumour, and could even fail, even if they put prices in the stratosphere.

The argument about not overclocking is above said fanboiis last attempt to clutch at straws. LOL

Oh no a differing opinion it must be a fan boy. I have had my 5850 since launch and it has been the best card I have ever owned (bar my 3DFX card).

Price vs Performance these cards are not worth it. A new generation has always been a decent jump in performance vs price. Missing 32nm and going from 40nm to 28nm you would expect a huge jump.

So basically a 40nm NVIDIA card that is a year old can still come close to a flagship 28nm card. Some one is taking the ****.

edit : I wanted to buy a 7950 but really, for the price vs performance I cannot justify pressing the buy button.
 
Oh no a differing opinion it must be a fan boy. I have had my 5850 since launch and it has been the best card I have ever owned (bar my 3DFX card).

Price vs Performance these cards are not worth it. A new generation has always been a decent jump in performance vs price. Missing 32nm and going from 40nm to 28nm you would expect a huge jump.

So basically a 40nm NVIDIA card that is a year old can still come close to a flagship 28nm card. Some one is taking the ****.

edit : I wanted to buy a 7950 but really, for the price vs performance I cannot justify pressing the buy button.

But you speak with the same common sense that stopped you buying a 570/580.

You really must realise that sense + expensive computer parts = none.
 
Hardly surprising given that Nvidia created FXAA.

I was saying a 7970 would handily beat a 580 in BF3 when only FXAA was used instead of the broken MSAA. Its difficult to say either manufacturer copes well with MSAA in that game, just for whatever reason NV's implementation is slightly better currently.
 
Anyway not in any rush to update my GPU at this time and my desktops are not touching an AMD card until they show me their drivers work as designed with all new and old titles and apps. Only reason I went green team was because of AMD's drivers and driver team that don't admit to faults with their drivers but magically fix them later but of course was not a fault when reported but later show up on their updated release info for their drivers as a fixed item (thought you said it was not a fault and was my system?:p) :rolleyes:.

What's wrong with ATI drivers? I never had any problems with them.
 
Yep, it did. They destroyed the previous gen in performance, price and power usage. I still run my 2500k at stock at the moment even though it will do 4.5 with the smallest of voltage bumps, as there is no need for the extra power for gaming or browsing at the moment.

Utter rubbish. A stock I7 950 isn't far from a 2500k. Infact, I clearly remember when Tom Logan was reviewing his samples saying to me over MSN...

"Dude, these new Intel chips are absolute rubbish, they don't overclock !".

Now of course, he was trying the old method. FSB. He hadn't yet twigged that the clocking magic hailed back to the old days.

If what you are saying is "The 2500k is more than capable at stock" then yes, I agree. Just like my I7 950 is more than capable at stock speed and as such will be staying put. I've simply upgraded everything around it (ram, 7970, 120gb Corsair Force, 3d monitor and so on).

So I maintain. Had it not been for the enormous overclocks of Sandybridge the enthusiast would have slagged them off.

Which is why you won't see many, if any, recommendations to buy an I3 Sandy or Pentium Sandy as they are quite clearly boring and crap.

Don't forget sandy is not just the "K" series and you can't even overclock on the H61 boards and they still sell very well.

To think the success of the sandy range was because of the overclockabilty (made up words for the win) of the 2500k and 2700k alone is a joke.

Do you take me for being stupid?

Go and have a look at some comparisons on sales figures for £280 Dell desktop PCs compared to Alienwares. I know, because I used to work selling Alienwares. I saw all of that "junk" tearing from the shelves of Best Buy in New Jersey whilst the Alienwares were an incredibly hard sell.

I am fully able to realise that Llano is AMD's bread and butter, along with its other low powered solutions.

I am also able to understand that Llano is an absolute landmark for AMD. Quite simply because it's the first CPU *ever* that can say the word game without the price tag. It's amazingly clever, and will be a success.

I'm also aware of all the cheap MATX boards (£28 for example) that carry AMD chipsets. The millions, billions even, numbers they are sold in.

And then, I am able to see what sells in the "enthusiast" market.

1. It needs to be made to go faster. If it can't? it's crap.
2. It needs as many cores as you can cram on it. Even if it's a re badged server part that doesn't matter, because it will still make some one's hickory dickory dock feel bigger.
3. It needs to be pretty colours. People are really fussy about matching colours and parts in their "enthusiast righ".
4. Price doesn't matter, as long as it's the fastest.

Therefore, that would be why Intel have not released a K series I3. Quite frankly because driven to 4.8ghz and beyond at an enthusiast level (IE, in games) it would do what their I3 Clarkdale did to their I5 1156.

Make it completely pointless and a waste of money.

Bravo Intel, you're finally working it out.
 
Few more 7950 reviews for this 'Official' thread:

Reference AMD HD7950: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/amd_hd_7950_tahiti_pro_review,1.html

Powercolor PCS+ (factory overclocked): http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/powercolor_pcs_hd_7950_review,1.html

XFX DD Edition (factory overclocked): http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/xfx_dd_r7950_review,1.html

It's cute that people are expecting the 7950 to be priced significantly less than the 580 for better performance and huge overclocking headroom. Hell, even if AMD were willing to sell at that price e-tailers would think twice about it.

EDIT: So, is the front page going to be updated with all the other reviews posted, or is the thread just to promote the first four reviews?
 
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That's comparing them if you played games for three hours a day, every day for a year.

Now of course some will game more than that, but some will game less. So I figured it was a fair amount of time to do the comparison. Not too much and not too little.

Based on 10p per kWh; Saving 100 W, for 3 hours a day for a year would save a massive £10.95. :)
 
Based on 10p per kWh; Saving 100 W, for 3 hours a day for a year would save a massive £10.95. :)

That won't happen. Be realistic. The 7970 will be overclocked, it's as simple as that.

Meaning you save about 40w over your TDP, bringing it in at the figures I came up with.

But yes, even if you did save a tenner a year it would take about five years just to say there was any value in buying a £439 card to save money on power.

Making that whole "It uses less power !" argument completely null and indeed very void.
 
That won't happen. Be realistic. The 7970 will be overclocked, it's as simple as that.

Meaning you save about 40w over your TDP, bringing it in at the figures I came up with.

But yes, even if you did save a tenner a year it would take about five years just to say there was any value in buying a £439 card to save money on power.

Making that whole "It uses less power !" argument completely null and indeed very void.

What's the idle power difference between the 7900 series and Fermi? Would that make a difference in the medium term?
 
I was saying a 7970 would handily beat a 580 in BF3 when only FXAA was used instead of the broken MSAA. Its difficult to say either manufacturer copes well with MSAA in that game, just for whatever reason NV's implementation is slightly better currently.
Reviews have confirmed that same as the 69xx cards, the 79xx loses huge chunk of frame rate when MSAA is applied in BF3 (the Frostbite2 engine to be precise).

Posting a Battlefield 3 benchmark comparison is an incredibly lame attempt at rubbishing the 7 series. Infact, according to Bit-tech a stock 580 is 2FPS faster than a 7950.
The problem is that EA is set to push the use Frostbite2 engine onto large number of their new titles in the near future, so it is not lame at all to use BF3 as representation. What it could potentially mean is that in any titles that uses the Frostbite2 engine, the 7950 can be slower than the GTX580 when MSAA is applied (on 1920 res).
 
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But you speak with the same common sense that stopped you buying a 570/580.

You really must realise that sense + expensive computer parts = none.

Damn, you have got me there. Your equation speaks truth.

I must have really landed lucky with my cards my Radeon 9800pro lasted years and I guess my 5850 will do the same.
 
I don't care about power nor do I wish to overclock. So how exactly is this card any different from a 580 1.5gb from 14 months ago?

This card is not for GTX580 owners.

When Nvidia introduces some competition we will see prices fall so don't buy anything yet if you can wait.

I thought that would be obvious.
 
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This card is not for GTX580 owners.

When Nvidia introduces some competition we will see prices fall so don't buy anything yet if you can wait.

I thought that would be obvious.
Or 6990 owners. I believe this is for 560ti and below and 6850 and below possibly... then you'd see a massive jump. if you already own 6970/6970 xfire or a 6990 or a 570/580GTX then I'd not even think about upgrading. But that's just me!
 
No not now for sure, when the new Nvidia series launches then a pair of 7970s is going to make a lot of sense for them though.

A pair of 7970s at 1250mhz core is staggeringly powerful.
 
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