***Official Command and Conquer 4 Tiberian Twilight Thread***

OMG what have they done to command and conquer :(

The tiberiun universe is my favourite gaming world and i cant really grasp what ea have done to it.
 
EA's new PC title Command & Conquer 4 will require a constant internet connection to play, the company has confirmed, mirroring similar demands in recent Ubisoft titles.

A post on the official Command & Conquer forum, from community manager EA_Apoc, states that the game has "NO DRM" and that players do not need to have the DVD in the drive to play the game. The game can also be installed from the disc an infinite number of times on any machine.

However, to play the game the PC must be connected to the internet at all times. As the review of the game on our sister site Eurogamer makes clear "Just like Ubisoft's contempt-to-the-max DRM system, this will kick you out if your net connection drops for any reason - even in single-player."

Part of EA's justification for the system is that the game constantly updates user statistics, using an experience system similar to first person shooters such as Modern Warfare 2.

However the Eurogamer review suggests that: "There's no reason it can't wait to do that until you're next back online, just like consoles do with their unlocks."

Ubisoft's similar demands for a constant internet connection have come in for severe criticism from PC users, especially after the company's own severs proved highly unreliable
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Just when you thought EA were learning.

Apparently they are removing the DRM from all Steam versions of BFBC

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I cant for the life of me get this to work.

It gets to the mission loading screen and then crashes back to windows.

Specs are:
Windows 7 64bit
Athlon 965 3.4ghz
Radeon 5770 1gb
4gb ram

For all of the negatives (and some positives) I was looking forward to actually making my own opinion of the game, but it seems EA have even removed that ability now by not letting me actually play the thing!!
 
I have to say i'm not even remotely intrested in this, i havnt enjoyed a c and c games since generals and red alert 2.

I'm not a expert rts player so them games appeal to me cause they was so simple but hard to master.

The newer c and c games seem far more complex imo. RA3 for example all the units and differant fireing modes and land and sea and air vechials kinda spoiled it for me. Whats wrong with just building a base and a big army and attacking each other.

I wish they would make another generals game but they would properly mess that up 2.
 
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The last C&C game I played was Red Alert 2, and I'm not going to sully the memory of that game by buying the later tat :p

Actually I quite liked Generals, but they really shouldn't have used the C&C name for that game, since it had nothing to do with the C&C universe.
 
I've not played the beta or the full release of the game but I'd like to remind people that even if you can't build a base it still might be a good game. Dawn of war 2 being the best example I can think of
 
i remember slabs of concrete and rocket turrets at the walls, a damn annoying sandworm which would swallow my trucks....but my base became a fortress which i was proud of.
my first rts which i played to death.

right now EA are that damn sand worm.
 
Amnesia said:
i remember slabs of concrete and rocket turrets at the walls, a damn annoying sandworm which would swallow my trucks....but my base became a fortress which i was proud of.
my first rts which i played to death.

right now EA are that damn sand worm.
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That "dune emperor" game or whatever the hell it was called (its in my drawer but really can't be bothered to look lol) was awful :P

Think it was one of the first 3D RTS games I played as well
 
spyre said:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=239583&site=pcg

Much like Ubisoft's newest games, when C&C4 is released tomorrow it will only work while you're connected to EA's servers. We've done some extensive cable-yanking experiments to see how the game reacts if you're disconnected from them during play, and the results are... bad.

After creating an account, assigning your serial number to it and logging into the game, you still need to be online to start a single player game: if not, you're logged out and unable to play.

Once you're in-game, getting disconnected produces this message:

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As it says, you can continue to play, but your progress won't be saved.

I tried reconnecting, then continuing with the mission and eventually completing it. But at the end, I was booted back to the main menu, all progress lost. My internet connection had been working fine, but the game never bothered to reconnect me to EA's servers.

Once it's been disconnected, it doesn't seem to make any attempt to reconnect. That means even a momentary interruption to your connection kills your session completely: everything you do from then on is pointless.

The only way to avoid losing progress is to save your game the moment you get that message, quit out, then start it again. Otherwise, you won't be connected to EA's servers even if you're connected to the internet, and finishing any mission will erase all your progress.

We've already seen with Ubisoft's authentication servers that your own internet connection is not the only requirement with these systems: the publisher's servers have to be up and working too, and this is by no means guaranteed. Now, if your connection to EA's servers is lost even for a moment, everything you do from then on is a waste of time. You have to quit the game and restart it to even attempt to reconnect.

It gets worse.

EA have previously shut down the multiplayer servers for 78 of their games, sometimes barely more than a year after release. On Tuesday, they shut down all servers for PC games Mercenaries 2 and Lord of the Rings: Conquest, which only came out last year. Naturally we contacted EA to ask how long they intended to keep the servers for C&C 4 online, but have received no response.

All the while, EA's Command & Conquer Community Manager is claiming "Command & Conquer 4 has NO DRM" on their forums. This is seemingly by some new definition of digital rights management, in which systems that restrict your ability to play don't count.

The game revolves around earning experience points to unlock access to new units, and this information is stored on EA's servers. A remotely useful feature for some, but does nothing to explain why anyone should be required to stay online to play.

C&C4 is out in Europe tomorrow. Our review isn't on sale just yet, but I can tell you we didn't much care for the game.
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From most previews it seems EA have somehow made a worse RTS than Supreme Commander 2. Removing the base building aspect is just barmy. What are these devs all thinking?
 
I played the Beta of this (albeit very briefly) and I honestly don't see a reason to buy this.

  • You can't build bases.
  • There's little / no resource management. The starting units are FREE and you have to unlock the other units Call of Duty style.
  • If they destroy your base you just get another one for free and it even lets you pick a different doctrine.
  • The beta multi-player browser was awful.

Honestly, it's even worse then Red Alert 3.
 
Looks like a major error on EA's behalf to release this game. As soon as I read limited base building and no tiberium harvesting I knew it was doomed to failure.

I'm happy with my First Decade pack. C&C1 and Red Alert are infinitely better than the latest iterations.

Why did Westwood have to go to EA.

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Well there's some sort of Tiberium mining I suppose. There's a few crystals at the edge of the map that you need for the higher tech stuff but it's done really poorly.

They tried to copy Relic and make Dawn of War 2 but they've failed completely. They should have gone back to their roots and made something like Red Alert 1.
 
James J said:
That "dune emperor" game or whatever the hell it was called (its in my drawer but really can't be bothered to look lol) was awful :P

Think it was one of the first 3D RTS games I played as well
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Well it could be Dune 2 - Battle for Arrakis or Dune 2000 as well.
 
C&C = The line of games I have enjoyed the most, literally out of any game ( even more so than age of empires and civilization! )

EA games = quality.

So wtf did they do this for?
Gaaah, after playing the beta,.. this game is terrible. I was really looking forward to playing this in the holiday a bit whilst revising, and maybe after my exams. I downloaded the beta and wish I never did. It's shocking,.. I actually uninstalled it within 2 days. I loved this game too,.. and it's the last. What a shocking ending. This has slaughtered the good memories of a quality game, it's on the same level of destruction as Sonic 3D was.
 
c&c was my fav ever game, but i cancelled pre order on this when i read an interview with the lead designer saying the game is targeting FPS players :rolleyes:

Well done EA......you ******* ruined the best game series on PC :mad:
 
Wait, what? Why would you target an RTS at FPS players?! That has to be the dumbest design choice I have ever seen in my life.
 
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