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Mr_Sukebe said:
I have had an AB9 for several months now. I use it centre mounted in my setup, which is an aluminium profile. For the grip, I use a Virpil Alpha Prime.
My previous base is a Virpil CM, so still pretty good

Cons:
- it’s pretty big. Which makes mounting a bit of a challenge. I’ve recently moved to a seat from a BMW F30 sport, from which I removed the thigh support. That’s allowed me to get the base where I want it. Side mounting would be easier, but the only aircraft that I fly with a side mount is the F16
- I tried it with the 20cm virpil swan neck extension and preferred it without
- the software was initially a bit confusing, but now I’ve got my head around it, it’s fine
- it uses two data sources from DCS, ie. The DCS provided FFB data, which is still in its infancy, and personally I don’t yet use. The other type is Telemetry, which I’m guessing is extracted from the data normally provided to say Trackfiles. This isn’t perfect, but does work well. The reason for me putting this as a con is that we are at early days.
- my Virpil grip is seen as a grip, but cannot be configured using the Virpil software. So advanced features such as control of lighting is not possible. No issues with mapping of buttons though

Pros:
- Yes, it does the wobbly bit like a PS controller
- more importantly is the feel. From the telemetry data it knows things like the use of flaps, gear, dropping weapons, G forces, speed against the critical Mach of the aircraft etc. Based up that, you can feel when the gear is going down. When you’re in a dive in say a 109, the resistance increases. In a stall at altitude in the Spitfire, the controls go light.
In an F16, it emulates a force sensing stick. In a chopper the controls are light etc. What it does here is phenomenal
- it’s possible to setup a profile for every single aircraft type, meaning that you can fiddle with say the resistance and inertia without screwing up another aircraft type
- out of the box, Moza provide profiles to represent all of the key aircraft types, eg a helicopter, warbird with different engine types, 3rd and 4th gen jets. I used those as the basis for the aircraft specific profiles that I created

In short, I love it and wouldn’t want to go back to a non FFB base
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Thank you for that, seems like a good system but needs time to get the configuration perfect.
 
GothicGhost said:
Thank you for that, seems like a good system but needs time to get the configuration perfect.
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Yep, that’s a fair summary.
I regularly tweak aircraft profiles. The positive part being that it’s actually pretty straightforward and not that time consuming if you’re doing one at a time.
 
GothicGhost said:
Does anyone use force feedback stick like the Moza AB9 ocuk sell? Thinking of making the jump as I love FFB steering wheels.

I mostly fly the KA50, Huey and F18 but buying the Kiowa soon.

My current setup full CH hotas and pedals with TrackIR5 with VR PICO 4.

I feel the next step of immersion is FFB
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Sorry for the late reply, I've had a Vpforce Rhino(and recently a monster) for about 18 months now, for helo's FFB is an absolute game changer couple it with some kind of transducer haptics and SimShaker and you can feel exactly what the airframe is doing. For planes(apart from warbirds) it's really not worth it but for helo's don't even think about it, just get it ;)
Not sure where you are in the UK but I'm East London, you're more than welcome to come and have a play if I'm in travelling distance.
 
Rikk said:
Sorry for the late reply, I've had a Vpforce Rhino(and recently a monster) for about 18 months now, for helo's FFB is an absolute game changer couple it with some kind of transducer haptics and SimShaker and you can feel exactly what the airframe is doing. For planes(apart from warbirds) it's really not worth it but for helo's don't even think about it, just get it ;)
Not sure where you are in the UK but I'm East London, you're more than welcome to come and have a play if I'm in travelling distance.
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Hello, I was looking at the Vpforce Rhino as well but it cost a lot more, but I know that the best one to get.

I live just north of London so not too far :D
Thanks.
 
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