As if I will believe what you will say given how you talk here and good old xenophobia on top to really drive the point that you are extremely deluded and arrogant individual.
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As if I will believe what you will say given how you talk here and good old xenophobia on top to really drive the point that you are extremely deluded and arrogant individual.
But in all seriousness let's have a serious discussion.
MMR works to a certain extent, it will never be perfect but in a team game it can't be. Watching pro games alone probably makes you a worse player, real talk. Pro dota and even high level MMR dota are totally different games. If you try to replicate what you see in pro games you'll just get stomped because it doesn't work unless you have full team understanding of what's happening.
I've played around 400 games of unranked/ranked dota and hover between 3.7-3.9k rating depending on what I had for breakfast. I've reached that level in that many games because I win more games than I lose. I win those games because I play well and understand what is needed to win pub games. I also know what would be required to win pro games, but if I try to do that in pubs I'd a)lose because team isn't Na'vi b)lose because I'm not pro calibre (maybe I am ELO hell?!).
Although it's a total LoL kid thing to do, the Dunning Kruger effect will always be present in games were your rating is influenced by others. It's a lot easier to point out other player's mistakes over your own. It's easy to see the support with 6 deaths and flame him for losing, when not taking note of how important his early rotations may have been.
I don't mean to flame you, but at 3k rating you probably don't understand the game to its full extent. I'm not saying I do, my rating isn't wonderful but it's increasing because I've played Dota/HoN for a long time so I have a deep understanding of how the game works I just need to improve mechanical skill. I'm at my current rating because that's how good I am, I'm just trying to get better and improve it instead of blaming Murray.
MMR works to a certain extent, it will never be perfect but in a team game it can't be. Watching pro games alone probably makes you a worse player, real talk. Pro dota and even high level MMR dota are totally different games. If you try to replicate what you see in pro games you'll just get stomped because it doesn't work unless you have full team understanding of what's happening.
I've played around 400 games of unranked/ranked dota and hover between 3.7-3.9k rating depending on what I had for breakfast. I've reached that level in that many games because I win more games than I lose. I win those games because I play well and understand what is needed to win pub games. I also know what would be required to win pro games, but if I try to do that in pubs I'd a)lose because team isn't Na'vi b)lose because I'm not pro calibre (maybe I am ELO hell?!).
Although it's a total LoL kid thing to do, the Dunning Kruger effect will always be present in games were your rating is influenced by others. It's a lot easier to point out other player's mistakes over your own. It's easy to see the support with 6 deaths and flame him for losing, when not taking note of how important his early rotations may have been.
I don't mean to flame you, but at 3k rating you probably don't understand the game to its full extent. I'm not saying I do, my rating isn't wonderful but it's increasing because I've played Dota/HoN for a long time so I have a deep understanding of how the game works I just need to improve mechanical skill. I'm at my current rating because that's how good I am, I'm just trying to get better and improve it instead of blaming Murray.
I wouldn't call hating Russian's in dota xenophobic, they are generally just *****
He is around 4k btw I think
The people I generally queue withs mmrs :
Shami - 2.6k
Anuraj - 3.3k
Dhruvie - 2.9k
Purdy - 4.4k solo 3.9k party
Heyim**** - 3.7k
Tune - unknown, expected to be around 3-3.5k range.
Your party score is higher and as I suspected you were dragged before mmr and overvalued. If you just played solo without team games giving you higher skill bracket you'd be in the same 3.5k bracket as me. So once again, hearing another average scrub giving me attitude is not pleasant. So shshh for now. If you don't have anything nice or constructive to say, keep it quiet.
Not anymore.
Look at what you guys did to my ****ing dotabuff yesterday
http://dotabuff.com/players/22228947/matches?hero=lone-druid&game_mode=&match_type=real
I am aware that pro and pub are completely different, hell I won a game of 5 supports against normal team in 3.5k bracket to highlight how bad some poeple can be. But simple things as wards. I once mentioned that I am never paired up with people who ward (of course I was supporting that game) and the other fella mentioned that in his games there are always people warding. How can we have such drastic difference in normality given same bracket?
I was at higher rating stably, and now I am not, my performance did not go lower, if anything I got better since the mmr dropped because I had to work twice as hard to win. But this is not the point, I am showing examples of absurdity, of how different players experience completely different level of play in the same bracket. I do not see why you suddenly got bored you the one who said lets talk about mmr
as iviv post shows, that's the experiment I mentioned, so as I said I am not arguing that mmr is is fasly representing my skill, I am just giving you my situation and absurdity of situation as I am frustrated with carry supports, with rude players like Murray who start insulting people for no reason and I am asking what can I do to improve. To that I was insulted by murray and then convesation with Monster ended on basically "you bad and deserve your bad bracket".
as iviv post shows, that's the experiment I mentioned, so as I said I am not arguing that mmr is is fasly representing my skill, I am just giving you my situation and absurdity of situation as I am frustrated with carry supports, with rude players like Murray who start insulting people for no reason and I am asking what can I do to improve. To that I was insulted by murray and then convesation with Monster ended on basically "you bad and deserve your bad bracket".
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http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1398477
An experiment with the MMR system. In summary, a guy with 5.6K MMR borrows someone's calibrated account that was at 2.9k. Plays games to see what happens to his MMR.
http://dotabuff.com/players/110289963/matches
An experiment with the MMR system. In summary, a guy with 5.6K MMR borrows someone's calibrated account that was at 2.9k. Plays games to see what happens to his MMR.
http://dotabuff.com/players/110289963/matches
Jesus christ, the stereotypical Dota 2 community is really spilling into this thread. Lighten up and you'll all have a much better time.
Oh, and solo support is not viable and is not "the only way to play" at low mmr, I think we have discovered one of the reasons you are low MMR.
Oh, and solo support is not viable and is not "the only way to play" at low mmr, I think we have discovered one of the reasons you are low MMR.
Solo support is viable. Everything is viable given the right circumstances.
Okay I am forced to play support charecter because nobody ever plays support. I am at this point scared not to pick support because I know if I wont, nobody will get wards/curier and rare times when I am left with non-support hero in captain mode guess what the support refuses to play support. Perhaps because I always play sup the system does not pair me up with other people who enjoy supporting?
Christ I am frustrated and I asked for some help from you guys why do you all have to be so hostile.
Viable was perhaps the wrong word, when you're in a bracket where people are picking AM, Jugg, Slardar, Puck and Disruptor for a draft then solo support is not something your team will cope with better than two supports.
I think you just told someone to learn how to read, if you don't want people to be hostile then don't rise to their bait.