*** Official Dota 2 Thread ***

[Jolteh]

I don't agree that Dotabuff was showing too much. It was a pretty awesome tool for tracking your progress and finding good replays to watch. It's not info you can't find in the client, but it's just formatted better.

They obviously overstepped the mark with DBR thing and Valve understandably didn't want some random 3rd party website having that much of an impact on the community. That said, I think Valve were a little heavy handed with the privacy option, especially with it being on by default, because the vast majority of people won't be bothered to change it.

 

[InKursion]

Still looking for other low-mid players to party up with for this game! All of my current Steam circle are mostly hardcore FPS, and don't wanna know I'm by no means great, but I'm getting quite tired of trying to direct and play support roles with complete randoms - most of whom seldom speak a word of English!

http://steamcommunity.com/id/inkursion

 

[Klo]

I don't agree that Dotabuff was showing too much. It was a pretty awesome tool for tracking your progress and finding good replays to watch. It's not info you can't find in the client, but it's just formatted better.

They obviously overstepped the mark with DBR thing and Valve understandably didn't want some random 3rd party website having that much of an impact on the community. That said, I think Valve were a little heavy handed with the privacy option, especially with it being on by default, because the vast majority of people won't be bothered to change it.

I'd rather it be on by default than be off by default. In my opinion all security and privacy on any website should be opt-out rather than opt-in.

 

[Sinny]

Last 2 games I've had, one person in particular kept feeding couriers. It's absolutely unnecessary and very frustrating. I don't see why they want to waste 30 minutes doing something absolutely pointless.

I can't even contemplate why you'd waste a game doing this. also following into traps repeatedly.

 

[Sinny]

Just played Windrunner, 17 -1 -X

my team decided to start the game by buying boots/bracers/talisman (no salves/tango's/clarity, Even after asking them to buy) it looked like we were loosing.

How wrong I was, I managed to get them to pull so I could shakle and bring them down, got enough kills to get monkey bar. even though they took down one side of our barracks, I stayed and defended, got more kills while the one other player managed to defeat their Ancient.

Best game I've played so far in terms of I thought it was a lost cause.

Windrunner is my new fave .

 

[Shamikebab]

Tried a public for the first time yesterday (after playing a few bot games) got annihilated

I found it very hard to farm (I was playing Viper), people like Sniper, Lina and Drow Ranger were just picking me off from range whenever I got near the creep line. I might try some other characters tonight.

 

[Porkie]

Tried a public for the first time yesterday (after playing a few bot games) got annihilated

I found it very hard to farm (I was playing Viper), people like Sniper, Lina and Drow Ranger were just picking me off from range whenever I got near the creep line. I might try some other characters tonight.

Yeah some characters are harder to play against than others. I often have the same problem. I try to hang back in xp range and try to get the odd last hit.

 

[Sinny]

Tried a public for the first time yesterday (after playing a few bot games) got annihilated

I found it very hard to farm (I was playing Viper), people like Sniper, Lina and Drow Ranger were just picking me off from range whenever I got near the creep line. I might try some other characters tonight.

You will, there is a LOT to learn, steep learning curve as you have to know what certain heroes do. I've been playing for 3 weeks and still learn new things, not used a lot of items, heroes. You'll pick things up like staying behind creeps, not wasting starting cash on boots or bracers/etc (branches and heal/mana pots are best).

 

[gord]

I found it very hard to farm (I was playing Viper), people like Sniper, Lina and Drow Ranger were just picking me off from range whenever I got near the creep line. I might try some other characters tonight.

Sniper can hurt here because one of his skills extends his range, so much so that at lvl 4 he can hit towers outside their range. That said, he should be going for last hits as a carry, not really harassing.

Drow is a pain, she hits hard, has a slow, silence and a global dmg increase for ranged units. She's weak though, get some harass on her and she'll pull back. Same with Lina, except she is a support with a lot of burst damage. She will try to harass and deny in the lane.

If you are fighting over the creep waves then the guy who swings up and right clicks an enemy hero will draw the enemy creeps on him. If you can avoid getting hit and quickly swing back to throw a right click on the hero that just tried to hit you then you've won a tiny part of Dota 2.

 

[Shamikebab]

I tried Nyx tonight, had a bit more luck with him. Found the first two stages comfortable, nobody seems to use wards in low public games so I was able to manouver around invisible a lot. I found a lacked damage in end game though. My combo was only good enough to kill the really weak characters, one guy playing Pudge in particular seemed to just wait for me to run out of moves (getting him down to about 1/4 health) and then finished me off easily. The Spiked Carapace skill just seemed to do very little to nothing to Rot. Definitely felt an improvement tonight though, managed to end the game with equal kills to deaths.

 

[Myshra]

The bigger problem is you were playing an anti-carry who has to go all in and dive on a fight, you get pounded in a lane if you don't go solo mid where you can farm a bit and they have to shoot up uphill (and thus miss a lot) if they want to squabble about it.

What ideally would have happened - you laned with a stunner and then just stunned > killed him ad nausum as he has no escape. If he hides under tower his last hitting will be poor at his skill level.

Edit for Nyx - build dagon, this is a standard build for burst. Also rot doesn't trigger it but ult / hook would - it requires physical damage or active ability really.

 

[Shamikebab]

Yeah I had Dagon towards the end, I think I need to change my binds, not used to games with so many buttons!

 

[Purdy]

Yeah I had Dagon towards the end, I think I need to change my binds, not used to games with so many buttons!

Keep spells on QWER
Items on 1/2/3/4/5/Space
Select hero/Centre camera on Hero as C/Double tap C
Stop attack animation/hold position on S or H
Send courier/Select is Z/X

I find those pretty comfortable, can't think if you need more binds than that.

(Apart from B to use shop)

 

[wilber]

has a OcUK ingame chat channel been set up? Might be worth having something set up so people here do not have to add loads of people to steam friends?

 

[Myshra]

Keep spells on QWER
I find those pretty comfortable, can't think if you need more binds than that.

You need your panic buy button surely (well you do as support). Put items in the buy queue, mash queue buyer button as you come close to death You can permanently bind certain pets to group control groups if you're a pet class user a lot but considering I hate chen/ench I can't be bothered

It's pretty viable as nyx to go straight from mana boots into dagon and just snipe people 24/7 assuming you went mid. If you gank sidelanes with each rune you become a dreaded missing call too.

 

[Tune]

has a OcUK ingame chat channel been set up?

Yeah there is one, just doesnt seem to get used.

 

[Sinny]

This is how my game usually goes.

Enemy picks Drow, I pick Lifestealer. had enough of Drow, so I'm just going to pick lifestealer whenever she is picked to ensure nobody ever picks her again .

 

[Purdy]

You need your panic buy button surely (well you do as support). Put items in the buy queue, mash queue buyer button as you come close to death You can permanently bind certain pets to group control groups if you're a pet class user a lot but considering I hate chen/ench I can't be bothered

It's pretty viable as nyx to go straight from mana boots into dagon and just snipe people 24/7 assuming you went mid. If you gank sidelanes with each rune you become a dreaded missing call too.

Generally if I don't have enough time to click the item in my buy queue there isn't enough time to make the decision whether I need to keep the gold for a buyback.

 

[Jongo]

This is how my game usually goes.

Enemy picks Drow, I pick Lifestealer. had enough of Drow, so I'm just going to pick lifestealer whenever she is picked to ensure nobody ever picks her again .

My common counter to drow is Nyx assassin, or if its a game where he isnt viable any other hero with a heavens halberd watching a drow just stand there wondering why she isn't firing is a fantastic feeling.

 

[Sinny]

My common counter to drow is Nyx assassin, or if its a game where he isnt viable any other hero with a heavens halberd watching a drow just stand there wondering why she isn't firing is a fantastic feeling.

Same, I get a spell immunity and a slowdown which gives the enemy a lifesteal aura, so Drow spams me with Ice arrow, can't do anything . (also drop down a sentry ward).

She isn't going anywhere .

I just had a game where my entire team abandoned, I defended the base for 10 minutes, didn't get killed. But too many creeps killed my base :|.