**Official GeForce 6100/6150 Resource & Help Thread**

Sumanji

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Hey,

A lot of people are starting to show interest in and/or buy these little mATX boards. I'm hunting for a nice one myself for my HTPC/2nd rig. Please email me if you want to see anything else in this first post that you think is missing (linky in sig) :)


What are GeForce 6100/6150 and nForce 410/430?

Just like nVidia's nForce3 and nForce4, GeForce 61x0 and 4x0 combine together to make a core logic for AMD's Socket 754/939 platforms.

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Image courtesy of nVidia

However, instead of their new-style "single chip" approach, nVidia have decideded to split the core logic into a traditional North and South bridge. The main reason for this is that GeForce 61x0 contains an onboard GeForce 6 class GPU!

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Table courtesy of Xbit Labs

Improvements vs. nForce4 and older chipsets:
  • Manufactured on 90nm process at TSMC (lower cost, lower heat output)
  • Integrated graphics with support for DirectX 9.0c (SM3.0 compliant)
  • Integrated audio with support for the Intel "Azalia" High defintion audio standard

Chipset Feature Comparison

Comparison table courtesy of The Tech Report:
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3D Performance Comparison

Benchmarks courtesy of HKPEC:
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View all benchmark tests here.
 
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List of Motherboards


Albatron KM51PV
  • GeForce 6150 and nForce 430
  • Pros: Passive chipset cooling, Onboard DVI output
  • Cons:
  • Preview @ HKEPC

ASRock 939NF4G-SATA2
  • GeForce 6100 and nForce 410
  • Socket 754 version: K8NF4G-SATA2 (GeForce 6100 and nForce 410)
  • Pros: Supports Socket 754, Passive chipset cooling
  • Cons:
  • Preview @ HKEPC

Asus A8N-VM CSM

Biostar TForce 6100-M9 (aka 6100-939)

Foxconn WinFast 6150K8MA-8EKRS
  • GeForce 6150 and nForce 430
  • Pros: Passive chipset cooling
  • Cons: No PCI-E x1 Slot
  • Review @ PCStats

Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT-9

MSI K8NPVM2
  • GeForce 6150 and nForce 430
  • Cut-down version: K8NGM2 (GeForce 6100 and nForce 430)
  • Socket 754 version: K8NGM-V (GeForce 6100 and nForce 410)
  • Pros: Passive chipset cooling
  • Cons:
  • Pics @ Digitimes

MSI MicroBTX Board (Unannounced)
  • GeForce 6100 and nForce 430
  • Pros: BTX form factor, Passive chipset cooling
  • Cons:
  • Preview @ HKEPC
 
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Downloads & Other Resources

General guides

Overclocking tips & tricks

Thanks for reading!

Suman

Thanks to p4radox and FireBarUK for their contributions to this guide!
 
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Yay - been hoping for a thread like this :)

A few things I was wondering about:
How do those chipsets compare to ones like NF4 Ultra? How stable and reliable are they? And something that really concerns me is whether or not the onbard graphics chip would clash with an installed graphics card.

I was also wondering about the Asus A8V-MX VIA K8M800 Micro ATX and Asus A8NE-FM nForce4 Micro ATX. I know neither of those fit into this thread - but I can't find any information on them :(
 
Regarding multi-GPU operation:

From XBitLabs:
"The GeForce 6150 and 6100 are both equipped with a PCI Express x16 bus which can be used to connect an external graphics card to be used instead of the integrated graphics or as an additional graphics accelerator, working together with the integrated one. By default, these chipsets do not disable the integrated graphics core when an external graphics card is installed and thus can support four-monitor configurations. By the way, ATI’s Radeon Xpress 200, another popular integrated chipset for the Athlon 64 platform, only allows the integrated core and the external graphics card to work simultaneously if the graphics card’s GPUs belongs to the Radeon series. The GeForce 6100 series chipsets are free from such a limitation and support any graphics card.
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Not sure about stability and reliability, they are literally brand new chipsets. Based on the tried and tested nForce4 though so I expect they will be pretty solid :)

The Asus A8NE-FM is an OEM-only mATX version of the A8N-E... not much more to say than that :p Not sure about the other board.

Suman
 
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Nice one Sumang, it'll be good to have an up-to-date list of the best available. For me, the Biostar is the one to go for, hopefully I'll be pairing it up with an Opteron and either an X800XL or X850XT. I'll keep you updated. :)
 
One of these might be just what I'm after for HTPC duties, will be keeping an eye on this thread - shame I'm blocked from the forums at home :(
 
Cons for Gigabyte 6100/430 based board = no voltage options
Pro = good spacing so as to fit in 2 PCI cards.

Cons for Tforce 6100 939 = poor PCI slot placement, with a dual slot cooler only 1 PCI slot can be used.

Foxconn Pro = good spacing so as to fit in 2 PCI cards

I've currently used the Gigabyte and thought it was awful, very flakey. At the mo I have a Tforce 939 sat infront of me waiting to be installed.
 
sumang007 said:
Those links aren't working for me for some reason :confused:

Suman
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Looks like [H]ardForum has been down for maintenance for the last couple of days. the links do work. One of them is a thread about overclocking on the TForce board, it has all the best BIOS versions etc:). Hopefully it'll be back up soon!
 
FirebarUK: Thanks dude added in the stuff about the Gigabyte voltage. Didn't really think the PCI slot was a pro or a con, as any PCI slot usage you gain (on the Foxconn and Gigabyte) is at the expense of a useable PCI-E slot, and I guess that makes it less future proof. Also I expect a lot of people getting this board will use the onboard video anyway, leaving all 4 slots free for goodies :D

p4radox: When they come back alive I'll make a brief description and add them in to the 3rd section!

Thanks guys,

Suman
 
lol, well I just picked up an ATi Xpress 200 mobo from an auction site for £35, so I guess I won't be needing a GeForce 61x0 board any time soon :p will still try to keep this thread going for all you guys though! :)

Suman
 
Just installed my Tforce 6100-939 and its awesome. Lots of options in the bios, some nice windows utilities and its totally rock solid unlike my Gigabyte board. Thumbs up, yet I wish they put the Realtek ALC850/880 codec on as the onboard sound :( rather than the ALC655, that would have made it perfect for me.
 
FirebarUK said:
Just installed my Tforce 6100-939 and its awesome. Lots of options in the bios, some nice windows utilities and its totally rock solid unlike my Gigabyte board. Thumbs up, yet I wish they put the Realtek ALC850/880 codec on as the onboard sound :( rather than the ALC655, that would have made it perfect for me.
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nice one fella. You using your X2 3800? Let me know how the clocking goes please! I've just got an Opty 146 and now all i need is the board! :)
 
When I get back tonight I might be able to have a play with it otherwise some time tomorrow. At the mo I am taking it very easy at 2.2Ghz on stock volts. My ASRock 939S56M could get the chip up to 2.32~ Ghz on stock volts so I'm interested to see how much further I can get it.

Yes, its a X2 3800 :)
 
sumang007 said:
Also I expect a lot of people getting this board will use the onboard video anyway, leaving all 4 slots free for goodies :D
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One of the things that bugs me about some of the reviews for the 6100/6150 boards is that they don't always test them out with proper gfx cards, don't do ALL the tests with the gfx card out and gfx card in, and don't compare them with full sized atx boards with the same gfx card.

This obviously makes it very hard to figure out if you can make a really good gaming rig with one of these boards. One of the reasons this is important is that some of us would like a really good gaming rig that isn't massive.
 
Look what I just got:
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A Biostar TForce 6100.:D

By the way, the Zalman CNPS7000 is not quite as dusty as it looks!
I'll be clocking the Opteron 146 tonight hopefully, so anyone who's still following this thread can see how it goes:).
 
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