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Official Haswell review thread
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It wasn't that long ago so many people were shouting stay clear of Arctic Silver 5 but this is ok. Yet both conductive.
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Yeah both thermally (obviously
). AS5 is not electrically conductive, it's slightly capacitive. Liquid PRO is electrically conductive.
I believe those are the new voltage regulation and distribution, so shorting them would be a bad idea.
So you are saying when you popped the lid off the 3770kand applied mx4, you saw no difference, but when you then after applied liquid pro it made a huge difference?
At first I thought you was saying liquid pro was 10-20c better the mx-4 generally speaking, which we all know is not true.
I pressume when you did apply mx-4 it was on both the inside and on top of the IHS, then the same again with the liquid pro?
Just seems like huge difference still.
Problem is applying liquid pro means kiss warranty goodbye, where as I am sure you can delid and still get away with keeping warranty if you stick with normal paste.
Any others opinions on this?
yes I saw 0 difference with mx4 on the die and under the heatsink cooler
I wiped it off applied liquid pro and saw a 10-20c drop can't remember exactly as I clocked to 4.8ghz after from 4.6ghz
now
4.8ghz=75c max
4.6ghz= 65c max,it would hit 80-81c before delid
liquid pro is much much thinner than mx4,plus its better at transferring heat,you don't want anything that's thick and goopy
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Yeah, thought as much.
I am hoping to get 4.6GHz initially which is around 5GHz Sandy. Then later on, maybe go wild and pop that lid of and try go more.
Come to think about it, will likely keep lid on until Broadwell so 12 months. I may choose to upgrade to that. If I do not, then I will delid
So basically could easily get 200MHz extra if you got a decent chip that can handle it. If not at least you benefit from a cooler chip.
I just hate that the liquid pro or ultra does not come of without leaving a trace like conventional paste such as the mx4.
Yeah, thought as much.
I am hoping to get 4.6GHz initially which is around 5GHz Sandy. Then later on, maybe go wild and pop that lid of and try go more.
Come to think about it, will likely keep lid on until Broadwell so 12 months. I may choose to upgrade to that. If I do not, then I will delid
So basically could easily get 200MHz extra if you got a decent chip that can handle it. If not at least you benefit from a cooler chip.
I just hate that the liquid pro or ultra does not come of without leaving a trace like conventional paste such as the mx4.
it does,it just wipes off,no marking atleast that's what I found,just don't use it on graphic card dye's as it doesn't work at all,its too thin
its better allround now ive done it,fans don't ramp up half as much and you don't have to worry about temps...ever
From what I read it you end up having to lap it after, as it scratches to remove. Strange, maybe they have a newer formula these days? lol
Also, some people are saying you may need to replace the liquid pro every so often? That would be annoying. Is that your experience?
I havent had to remove it from mine yet, (this weekend i will though), but ill report back on wether it stains my cpu or cooler base, (alpenfohn k2). Ive had it on the ihs for a few months, and if anything in that time temps have dropped a little more after the initial application. One paste that is definitely not reccomended for use on the die is ic diamond, apparently it is quite abrasive and can cause damage.
I wiped mine off after a few months just fine,that was on the gpu not cpu
you might need to use metal polish to polish it off your cooler heatsink but ive yet had to do that,again it just wiped off like ordinary paste
temps have stayed exactly the same for me since 4 months use so far
its best to just apply it and leave it,don't mess with it anymore
you might need to use metal polish to polish it off your cooler heatsink but ive yet had to do that,again it just wiped off like ordinary paste
temps have stayed exactly the same for me since 4 months use so far
its best to just apply it and leave it,don't mess with it anymore
I wonder if any of these reviews and their "achieved" overclocks have checked for WHEA errors ?
I can get my 3770k out-wardly stable at quite a bit lower than the volts needed to get no WHEA errors. Is it really stable with those errors- no, do they cause any glitches in windows and benches, prob not, do they slow down the cpu ? probably
I can get my 3770k out-wardly stable at quite a bit lower than the volts needed to get no WHEA errors. Is it really stable with those errors- no, do they cause any glitches in windows and benches, prob not, do they slow down the cpu ? probably
It will only eat through aluminum I believe. Most heat sinks are copper with some plating, the Intel IHS is Copper with Zinc plating (i think).
So unless you have a aluminum heatsink you'll be fine, just make sure to not get it anywhere on the motherboard/socket as it's conductive and then you'll have a bad day.