• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Official Haswell review thread

GodAtum said:
I wouldnt mind paying a premium for them. Are they the same as OEM?
Click to expand...

No. ES stands for Engineering Sample. They are test chips that are sent out to reviewers and OEM manufacturers and are normally cherry picked. Its actually illegal to sell intel ES chips.

You can read all about Intel ES chips here: http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-030747.htm

OEM chips are just normal chips that aren't packaged up with a retail box and heatsink and come with only 1 years warranty. If you buy a OEM chip then it will likely come with a plastic cover over it and come in a brown box.
 
kitch9 said:
I'm in same boat I have a 2600k which does 4.6ghz without batting an eyelid and I'm wondering if sticking a 3770k in my board so I get pci-e 3.0 for my sli 670s is the way to go.
Click to expand...


There is absolutely no point going to haswell from a 2600k, the better overclock on your chip will easily overcome the 10% core boost that has been banded around the haswell chips. 3770k is a good idea it you want pci-e 3.0 but in terms of acctual cpu performance its marginal again.
I have a 2600k sat at 4.5ghz all day long and it loves it, games run sweet and converting video is a piece of cake.
If i was you id just save my money until you started struggling on games and software.
 
Futures said:
Looks like upgrading to haswell is only worth it if coming from am3+, the last 3 generations of Intel is still good enough. But saying that a rumoured vishera refresh next month could even things out more.
Click to expand...

yea finally upgrading my old x6 1055t but I don't really feel like that cpu is at the end of it's life yet especially when you consider the slow clocked 8 core cpus in the new consoles are sure to extend the life of any chips with more than 4 cores
 
Last edited:
Freddie1980 said:
I think those older socket 775 chips were flux soldered, if you try removing the IHS using the vice and wooden block method you will most likely remove the IHS as well as the core from the PCB.
Click to expand...

I would still be able to get the IHS off in the same manner though right?, just wanted something to practice the procedure on....other than my Haswell ;)
 
it seems there's a new row of tiny transistors on the haswell chips,under the internal heatsink,so if you are using liquid pro you need to make sure none touches those or else it will short the chip due to the paste being liquid metal
 
I can't be asked with the hassle liquid pro brings to use it for a few Celsius difference. Really is a shame intel went with cheap TIM again :(
 
its a big difference 10-20c at least over any paste on the market

I replaced mine with mx4 and saw 0 temp difference
 
So you are saying when you popped the lid off the 3770kand applied mx4, you saw no difference, but when you then after applied liquid pro it made a huge difference?

At first I thought you was saying liquid pro was 10-20c better the mx-4 generally speaking, which we all know is not true.

I pressume when you did apply mx-4 it was on both the inside and on top of the IHS, then the same again with the liquid pro?

Just seems like huge difference still.

Problem is applying liquid pro means kiss warranty goodbye, where as I am sure you can delid and still get away with keeping warranty if you stick with normal paste.

Any others opinions on this? :)
 
Nice one Raven. Watching it now. That ROG UEFI looks nice. Can't wait to get hold of my Hero :)

Love upgrade times :D
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom