***Official Intel Haswell Thread***

[Akagi]

I am guessing that going from my Q9650@4Ghz to [email protected] would give twice the performance.

Haswell is tempting but will wait for official reviews and benchmarks

It should be close to twice the performance in a-lot of areas
Here's a stock Q9650 vs a stock 3770K for instance http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=551

 

[Subliminal Aura]

It should be close to twice the performance in a-lot of areas
Here's a stock Q9650 vs a stock 3770K for instance http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=551

What I noticed most from the upgrade was the memory bandwidth ~ 2-3x makes a heck of a difference

 

[WingZero30]

What I noticed most from the upgrade was the memory bandwidth ~ 2-3x makes a heck of a difference

Indeed. The whole architecture makes a difference to the computing performance.

 

[ubersonic]

The new ones are terrible. I have a stock cooler that came with an E8200 here, it is over twice as thick and has a copper base. I don't know why Intel had to skimp on the newer ones.
I wouldn't even call the new ones fit for purpose to be perfectly honest.

You should see the stock LGA2011 cooler (you have to buy it as an option extra as LGA2011 CPUs don't come with it) its basically the same as the LGA1156/55 one but the fan blades are clear plastic and it has a screw in mount lol.

 

[Akagi]

You should see the stock LGA2011 cooler (you have to buy it as an option extra as LGA2011 CPUs don't come with it) its basically the same as the LGA1156/55 one but the fan blades are clear plastic and it has a screw in mount lol.

It looks better than the 1156/55 ones, but I can't imagine it would do a good job of cooling a 3930K/3960X...

 

[whyscotty]

This.

Btw has it been confirmed whether IHS is soldered or Timmed ?

Are we any the wiser ?

 

[Akagi]

Are we any the wiser ?

How did we find out last time?

 

[whyscotty]

How did we find out last time?

So it's wait for the reviews

 

[wazza300]

its paste imo,temps are too high

 

[BigBANGtheory]

its paste imo,temps are too high

I also agree with you there, again my opinion not based on fact or inside knowledge.

 

[illuz]

It has been confirmed it is indeed TIM, issues to do with the 3D transistors mean they must use TIM as soldering can't be used (don't know why).

Only difference this time is it has little caps RIGHT next to the die (on-die VRM anyone? ):

http://cdn.overclock.net/e/eb/eb025a07_12129254.jpeg
No hotlinking please.

Those taking a razor to it had better be careful not to pop one off, and they had better put some MX4 or something on them once delidded if they want to use CLU/CLP as it's conductive and touching those caps with it will pop your chip.

 

[tbh]

It has been confirmed it is indeed TIM, issues to do with the 3D transistors mean they must use TIM as soldering can't be used (don't know why).

Guess that means that the Socket 2011 IvyB's will use TIM as well, downer.

Think I'll sit this gen out, no compelling reason to "upgrade" from a 2500K.

 

[Wucked]

Wow, that's disappointing.

 

[MichaelM]

Guess that means that the Socket 2011 IvyB's will use TIM as well, downer.

That was my first thought.
Unless there is a more expensive soldering technique suitable for Ivy that just isn't worth doing on consumer grade chips.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Hopefully they will have a better TIM application this time round?

 

[illuz]

That was my first thought.
Unless there is a more expensive soldering technique suitable for Ivy that just isn't worth doing on consumer grade chips.

Soldering is soldering at the end of the day I think.

Hopefully they will have a better TIM application this time round?

Who knows, I guess it's machine done. I've read of people having the whole bottom of the IHS covered in their TIM and some people only having a QUARTER of the die covered in TIM and having differences of 30-40'c on cores!

 

[arad85]

Have to say, I'm sticking with Sandy. Just bought a more modern mobo to get better distribution of PCI-e lanes (still on P67 with single x16 implementation here).

 

[Jeps]

Well this is looking disappointing but I will wait for the proper reviews before I completely write off haswell. X79 is looking like the more attractive upgrade option from my i7 920.

 

[NirK]

Hmmm so Sandy bridge > Ivy Bridge was about 10% performance increase now Ivy Bridge > Haswell will be about 5-10% performance?

Pretty lame performance gains compared to something like core2quad > i5

I wish they could implement the igpu so it is actually useful if you have a dedicated GPU. Not sure if this would be possible or not, i guess not...

 

[Tackle_Berry]

I now can't decide whether it's worth me upgrading from a 2500k I don't currenly use anything that would benefit from HT and I only really play BF3 or other similar FPS games are the next gen console games going to benefit from hyperthreading? Ah I was planning on upgrading so now got the itch but then it's money I could save.