**** Official Microsoft Flight Simulator Thread ****

xaldub said:
Ouch ! I have a similar setup except for a RTX 3090 - doesn't sound like that will help much, however. I can't wait for VR to become a mature technology ; in the meantime I guess I'll persevere with ultrawide/multiple monitors.
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Depends on your tolerance to motion sickness... you could have an absolute blast with a 3090, and given the CPU limitations you could probably run it at very decent resolution given you can’t aim for over 45fps anyway.

If you were planning on picking up a VR headset anyway then it is well worth giving a go. If not maybe wait 6 months or so and DX12U and the series X version should be out by then, see if things have improved.
 
For VR if you can get the balance right for your setup (higher spec the better) it does look really good it took me about 10 hours to get it perfect and looking good on my rig..I fly the A320 mostly, I only fly in VR these days ~I love it
 
xaldub said:
Ouch ! I have a similar setup except for a RTX 3090 - doesn't sound like that will help much, however. I can't wait for VR to become a mature technology ; in the meantime I guess I'll persevere with ultrawide/multiple monitors.
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I have a 3090 too. VR in the G2 is mind blowing. Combination of medium to high settings and it's very smooth everywhere except big cities. Reprojection is on as it really has to be. There is a bit of wobbliness every now and again but the experience is just so amazing you don't notice. I tried on my monitor after and even with ultra settings on the monitor I just found the whole experience, well just flat actually. Your flying in VR is also way better. The whole thing is just more natural. I have nearly 10,000 hours in the real Airbus 320. I couldn't fly it for ++++ in msfs on a monitor. In VR it was like being at bloody work! I could fly it and land it in a way I'm used to doing at work. I even tried on numerous occasions to put my left hand on the sidestick, as I would do at work, only to remember I fly with a yoke at home. Basically I'm trying to say that VR is really rather good. Don't dismiss it, especially not with your hardware.
 
I really want to enjoy MSFS....but the last few times I've tried to play it's just got me in a rage.

Got my CH Pro pedals today, was looking forward to some flying...but I've spent an hour and half now trying to figure what's causing hard locks of my system whenever I start the game....so many reboots.

Edit....patience officially run out with this sim. Some gear up in MM if anyone's interested
 
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mid_gen said:
I really want to enjoy MSFS....but the last few times I've tried to play it's just got me in a rage.

Got my CH Pro pedals today, was looking forward to some flying...but I've spent an hour and half now trying to figure what's causing hard locks of my system whenever I start the game....so many reboots.

Edit....patience officially run out with this sim. Some gear up in MM if anyone's interested
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That’s weird.... I very rarely have any issues. Are you running any overclocks on anything?
 
Zeeflyboy said:
That’s weird.... I very rarely have any issues. Are you running any overclocks on anything?
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I've tried without overclocks, firmware updates, bios updates, different drivers. I can count on one hand the number of times I've successfully completed a multi-hour flight. I've spent more time trying to get the damn thing working with all my peripherals than I have flying.

Stupid bugs as well like the the sim freezing for several seconds whenever my bluetooth keyboard wakes up, which is pretty much whenever ATC chime in.

On the odd occasion it does work flawlessly, it's sublime....but then I come back to it after an update, and my binds are gone again, or something else is broken. In this case, I add some rudder pedals that make it 100% hard lock my PC within a few minutes of launching (with an ear-splitting audio buzz, for good measure).

No problems with my PC in any other titles (5820k, 32gb, 2070).

Anyway, I'll be completely upgrading my system next year when you can actually buy PC equipment again, hopefully it's patched up a bit more and the VR has made some progress by then!
 
So today I’ve had my first try of MSFS in VR. I’m using the Quest 2 and must say from an immersion point of view it’s super impressive. I’m a little more than confused at all the different render scales however, I have OpenXR at 70% and the in game render resolution at 50% as per a guide I found. I’ve changed some of the Oculus settings in the debug tool to increase super sampling however my image is still very blurry. In the C152 I cannot make out any numbers etc on the dials however the sim is smooth! I just wonder how I can go about increasing the clarity of the image. I’m using an RTX3070 and Ryzen 3600 with 32GB RAM.
 
Paul2k12 said:
So today I’ve had my first try of MSFS in VR. I’m using the Quest 2 and must say from an immersion point of view it’s super impressive. I’m a little more than confused at all the different render scales however, I have OpenXR at 70% and the in game render resolution at 50% as per a guide I found. I’ve changed some of the Oculus settings in the debug tool to increase super sampling however my image is still very blurry. In the C152 I cannot make out any numbers etc on the dials however the sim is smooth! I just wonder how I can go about increasing the clarity of the image. I’m using an RTX3070 and Ryzen 3600 with 32GB RAM.
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Unfortunately as it currently stands you won’t be able to get eye bleeding clarity with a 3070 on this game as you have to undersample at the sort of resolutions the Quest2 demands to maintain playable frame rates.

The EFIS clarity seems to be majorly affected by the in game resolution slider, more so than other things... so if dealing with EFIS aircraft you want to run at 100% in game resolution ideally, and that will probably necessitate dropping back to 50-60% on OXR resolution depending on what your other settings are.

I have found 100% in game and 50% OXR to work quite well on the G2 and my 3070 - gives reasonable legibility of gauges and EFIS and maintains 30fps with some settings turned up a bit.

110-120% in game and 100% OXR gives really nice clarity but just not playable frame rates sadly...
 
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I see, I will try those settings and see how I get on. I’ve got TAA selected however I’ve never seen so many jagged edges! I’m not too fussed about draw distance etc but I’d just like to make out the cockpit at least. If upgrading were an option what would you go for CPU or GPU? I’m hoping some Asobo optimisations will be coming soon.
 
Hi all, anyone have any idea what these mini mountains/pyramids (look about an inch below the horizon) are that have appeared lmao? They are in the area local to where I live and are seemingly permanent, they pop up if the sim is restarted. 100% the area where I live is flat and they are a new addition as i've flew my area before in the sim and they weren't there. They've appeared nowhere else. How do I get rid? Is there a cache I can delete?
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Hi all, anyone have any idea what these mini mountains/pyramids (look about an inch below the horizon) are that have appeared lmao? They are in the area local to where I live and are seemingly permanent, they pop up if the sim is restarted. 100% the area where I live is flat and they are a new addition as i've flew my area before in the sim and they weren't there. They've appeared nowhere else. How do I get rid? Is there a cache I can delete?
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It's a bug since the update: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/spikes-on-terrain-and-and-mesh-problems-global/338732
 
I’ve used the oculus usage tool and it says I’m hovering around negative performance headroom of about -150%. That was all settings on the lowest they will go so I’m assuming in all my tinkering I’ve messed something up somewhere.
 
bmad said:
I have a 3090 too. VR in the G2 is mind blowing. Combination of medium to high settings and it's very smooth everywhere except big cities. Reprojection is on as it really has to be. There is a bit of wobbliness every now and again but the experience is just so amazing you don't notice. I tried on my monitor after and even with ultra settings on the monitor I just found the whole experience, well just flat actually. Your flying in VR is also way better. The whole thing is just more natural. I have nearly 10,000 hours in the real Airbus 320. I couldn't fly it for ++++ in msfs on a monitor. In VR it was like being at bloody work! I could fly it and land it in a way I'm used to doing at work. I even tried on numerous occasions to put my left hand on the sidestick, as I would do at work, only to remember I fly with a yoke at home. Basically I'm trying to say that VR is really rather good. Don't dismiss it, especially not with your hardware.
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Thanks for you comments - that's really helpful. I'll keep a very close eye on VR tech over the coming months ; I still have some hesitation surrounding maturity of the technology, but it's clearly improved since gen 1. Also, seems like the headsets are a little bit difficult to find at the moment - I'm not willing to pay scalpers. Can i ask why you went with the G2 vs. Oculus etc ?
 
I had an interesting problem with Flight Simulator frequently crashing after my 3070 FE arrived and I overclocked it.

I put the card back to stock and it was still happening, so I did some trouble shooting and narrowed it down to my CPU overclock causing the crash at high and ultra settings.

It's a 3600 that was at 4.2 GHz all-core overclock, stock voltage and stock cooler. Dialled it back to 4.1 GHz and it's solid again. There were no other symptoms with no other applications having an issue with the CPU overclock, so I guess FS is a bit more picky.

Anyway if you're getting crashing and have overclocked your CPU, have a look in that direction!
 
xaldub said:
Thanks for you comments - that's really helpful. I'll keep a very close eye on VR tech over the coming months ; I still have some hesitation surrounding maturity of the technology, but it's clearly improved since gen 1. Also, seems like the headsets are a little bit difficult to find at the moment - I'm not willing to pay scalpers. Can i ask why you went with the G2 vs. Oculus etc ?
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I had a G1 which was great but not really ever intended for gaming. Colours were a bit off and the tracking wasn't great at times due to two less cameras. Pre ordered the G2 straight away as it looked like it corrected most of the g1's shortcomings. Which it has indeed done. No regrets at all so far
 
Good day today with my fresh peripherals arriving for my PC build; nice Logitech gaming keyboard and mouse but more importantly my X52 Pro HOTAS; this thing makes flight sim so much more enjoyable than using the Xbox controller!!



This game is beautiful when it wants to be!

 
mid_gen said:
I've tried without overclocks, firmware updates, bios updates, different drivers. I can count on one hand the number of times I've successfully completed a multi-hour flight. I've spent more time trying to get the damn thing working with all my peripherals than I have flying.

Stupid bugs as well like the the sim freezing for several seconds whenever my bluetooth keyboard wakes up, which is pretty much whenever ATC chime in.

On the odd occasion it does work flawlessly, it's sublime....but then I come back to it after an update, and my binds are gone again, or something else is broken. In this case, I add some rudder pedals that make it 100% hard lock my PC within a few minutes of launching (with an ear-splitting audio buzz, for good measure).

No problems with my PC in any other titles (5820k, 32gb, 2070).

Anyway, I'll be completely upgrading my system next year when you can actually buy PC equipment again, hopefully it's patched up a bit more and the VR has made some progress by then!
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Well, I caved in and had one more go.

Formatted my PC, fresh install. Used an older nVidia driver 457.xx.

Touch wood....

Just completed a couple of flights, with all my CH gear working perfectly. Been able to sort out all my bindings without a single crash.
 
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