And me but for me it worked without me doing anything so I guess they did for those in the beta?
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Is this just a function of the altitude bug they mentioned in the Release Notes?
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They said it was a known issue but didnt say it was related to Live weather..It is releated, As flying in Preset weather i have no probs with
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I'd much prefer a non-VRR targeted 60 with dynamic res between 1440p/4k or even a fixed 40/4k with reduced subsampling. I'd expect more optimizations and performance options are incoming for all platforms!
DF already estimated the XSX was running an internal 1440p with temporal upsampling to 4k… not sure you’d want to run it any lower than it already does if so. Out of interest Series S was seemingly running at a true 1080p but with significantly lower draw distance.
I did see the video; I'm not sure how much more of an overhead TAA costs when getting that 1440p to 4k. I'm hopeful for a 40/4k (120hz displays) option.
Last night I noticed ground textures popping in as I pan the camera around on exterior views. I’m playing at Ultra preset as well. Not sure if it did it before update 5 but it’s really disappointing. Though that’s the only issue I’ve noticed so far.
Yes 'aggressive culling' has been mentioned as one of the mechanisms used to achieve the performance uplift. Quite a few calling SU5 a downgrade, to accommodate the xbox.
Personally, I didn't find it too jarring.
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Actually now I think about it, it’s even worse as the textures popping in were the ones immediately around the plane (around a 5 mile radius), and they are super low resolution textures. The ones further away look higher quality. Flying at 20000 feet this is.
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Am embarrassed to admit that on Tuesday I'd turned off live traffic, not AI traffic. Sorted that last night and flew for three hours with no stability issues at all.
It's still MS and Asobo's fault though. The time it took to download meant I'd had a couple of beers and half a bottle of wine before getting started with SU5.
It's still MS and Asobo's fault though. The time it took to download meant I'd had a couple of beers and half a bottle of wine before getting started with SU5.
Only just got around to trying update 5 as I had to completely uninstall and reinstall the game (my game will no longer update anymore, see my earlier post)
I'm only really interested in VR for this game now, and I'm running a pretty top end rig - 11700, 3090, 32GB fast DDR4, game on an NVME drive, Reverb G2 headset.
My initial findings for sim update 5 and VR SPECIFICALLY
Absolutely no difference at all, and potentially worse. What the actual ****?!
I'm flying the test route I always do from my local airfield, exact same VR settings as before which is 100% render scale in OpenXR, 70% render scale in game, then a mix of high and medium settings, draw distance and objects at 100.
With motion re-projection on
(NOTE: I use the "display frame timing overlay" option in open XR to display frame rate and what reprojection ratio is being used - eg 2/4, 3/4 etc
- Still bounces around between 22.5fps and 30fps with reprojection ratio of 2/4 or 3/4. As such it's a horrible experience, very warpy, and has judder as it moves between 22.5 and 30fps. I was really really hoping the optimisations of update 5 would allow for a constant 30fps with motion repro on. With my PC specs I'm amazed it still bounces around between 22.5fps and 30fps.
With motion re-projection off
(NOTE: I run with a 30fps lock on in Afterburner when using motion repro off, and set Virtual reality render ahead frames to 4 in the Nvidia control panel. Extensive testing I did before showed this was optimal for smoothness)
- With the same settings in game as above and OpenXR render scale etc. I still get a nice locked 30fps at all times. Half of the time it's nice and smooth with no stutter or judder, however it will randomly then start to judder for a while, then go back to being smooth in exactly the same way as it did before sim update 5.
Basically I'm seeing no improvement in VR, at all, with this update, and if anything it's actually worse with motion repro on than it was before.
(2D was and still is fine, but I'm not really interested in that when I've got a Reverb G2)
Not impressed at all. And it locks up/crashes which it never did before.
I'm only really interested in VR for this game now, and I'm running a pretty top end rig - 11700, 3090, 32GB fast DDR4, game on an NVME drive, Reverb G2 headset.
My initial findings for sim update 5 and VR SPECIFICALLY
Absolutely no difference at all, and potentially worse. What the actual ****?!
I'm flying the test route I always do from my local airfield, exact same VR settings as before which is 100% render scale in OpenXR, 70% render scale in game, then a mix of high and medium settings, draw distance and objects at 100.
With motion re-projection on
(NOTE: I use the "display frame timing overlay" option in open XR to display frame rate and what reprojection ratio is being used - eg 2/4, 3/4 etc
- Still bounces around between 22.5fps and 30fps with reprojection ratio of 2/4 or 3/4. As such it's a horrible experience, very warpy, and has judder as it moves between 22.5 and 30fps. I was really really hoping the optimisations of update 5 would allow for a constant 30fps with motion repro on. With my PC specs I'm amazed it still bounces around between 22.5fps and 30fps.
With motion re-projection off
(NOTE: I run with a 30fps lock on in Afterburner when using motion repro off, and set Virtual reality render ahead frames to 4 in the Nvidia control panel. Extensive testing I did before showed this was optimal for smoothness)
- With the same settings in game as above and OpenXR render scale etc. I still get a nice locked 30fps at all times. Half of the time it's nice and smooth with no stutter or judder, however it will randomly then start to judder for a while, then go back to being smooth in exactly the same way as it did before sim update 5.
Basically I'm seeing no improvement in VR, at all, with this update, and if anything it's actually worse with motion repro on than it was before.
(2D was and still is fine, but I'm not really interested in that when I've got a Reverb G2)
Not impressed at all. And it locks up/crashes which it never did before.
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For me VR was a substantial improvement in smoothness - only had one hitch so far where previously I'd get major prolonged hitches that fully freeze the sim every maybe 10-15 minutes or so on average... frame timing seems much more consistent and I'm getting less blur looking out the side of the aircraft at low level or close to objects, even at the same locked fps. I need more time to play with it to see if I can raise some settings and stay at 30 or lower others and shoot for the next goalpost of 45fps. but so far before I can objectively comment but I've been happy with the changes.
I have only personally seen the "culling pop in" issue if I move my head very rapidly - If I move my head at a normal pace it doesn't seem at all apparent. I wonder if the aggressive culling may be setting groundwork for direct storage later. No need to keep the items in memory then perhaps. I also haven't had a single CTD yet for what it's worth.
EDIT - if you are crashing lots perhaps try this I found in the main forums:
I have only personally seen the "culling pop in" issue if I move my head very rapidly - If I move my head at a normal pace it doesn't seem at all apparent. I wonder if the aggressive culling may be setting groundwork for direct storage later. No need to keep the items in memory then perhaps. I also haven't had a single CTD yet for what it's worth.
EDIT - if you are crashing lots perhaps try this I found in the main forums:
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Also really happy with it in VR now. Haven't checked any numbers but framerate (or smoothness at least) is substantially improved. Increased the render scaling from 80 to 100 in the graphics options (still at 70% in OXR) so have a decent bump in IQ as well.
Haven't noticed any pop-in when moving my head. Only thing like that I've seen is the absurdly near draw-distance for runway markers and stuff when taxiing.
I need to check out the view from airliner cruise altitude where people are complaining the ground looks rubbish. No issues from 10,000' over Yorkshire last night though.
Haven't noticed any pop-in when moving my head. Only thing like that I've seen is the absurdly near draw-distance for runway markers and stuff when taxiing.
I need to check out the view from airliner cruise altitude where people are complaining the ground looks rubbish. No issues from 10,000' over Yorkshire last night though.
Sorry to sound so negative but this update has been an utter shambles. The sim is almost a year old and people have paid good money (way more than usual MSRP) for something that basically doesn’t have the functionality as advertised. It’s unacceptable to make these updates mandatory with CTDs. At least give the paying consumer the chance to rollback to the previous version.
I understand a hotfix is incoming and I sincerely hope this addresses a lot of the issues people are having.
I understand a hotfix is incoming and I sincerely hope this addresses a lot of the issues people are having.
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You have every right to be negative, but can you not at least try to be balanced with it?
'Utter shambles' - smacks of drama queen.
Hot fix 30th July 1500 UTC (followed by 5hrs to download 20mb no doubt lol)
Quite a long list of fixes… one assumes they can’t realistically have done this in the couple of days since the sim launched. Begs the question why they launched with it broken if so.
Quite a long list of fixes… one assumes they can’t realistically have done this in the couple of days since the sim launched. Begs the question why they launched with it broken if so.
You’re right. I’ll retract the ‘utter’ and just call it a shambles then.