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So is there any news as to whether or not they adding a true supersonic flight model with the Top Gun stuff, or is it just going to be **** like all the current supersonic capable aircraft?
 
Anyone else having issues with world loading? I have a go in Tokyo and I get to parts of the city where the ground is just blurry 2d image, no 3d buildings loaded, checked and photo geometry is enabled, Bing maps is enabled, ensured everything is updated in the marketplace too.
 
willhub said:
Anyone else having issues with world loading? I have a go in Tokyo and I get to parts of the city where the ground is just blurry 2d image, no 3d buildings loaded, checked and photo geometry is enabled, Bing maps is enabled, ensured everything is updated in the marketplace too.
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I had that issue yesterday evening. Wasn't even a photogramm city area, quite rural and landscape still wasn't loading in properly. Must have been a Microsoft server/ data issue???
 
Has anyone got the Airbus Officers pack? (Stick & Throttle)? Looking for some feedback on it.
I'm looking to downsize from the Warthog HOTAS/Stick I've got as it just takes up so much room on the desk and the Airbus looks a smaller more compact unit; but it is any good?
 
chrismscotland said:
Has anyone got the Airbus Officers pack? (Stick & Throttle)? Looking for some feedback on it.
I'm looking to downsize from the Warthog HOTAS/Stick I've got as it just takes up so much room on the desk and the Airbus looks a smaller more compact unit; but it is any good?
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Got all of it plus an extra throttle (ready for the 380NX end of the year)

Really happy with it, only using the single throttle setup atm as there's calibration issues using all 4 so waiting for Asobo/FBW to sort that out with the 38NX
 
The bravo is in stock on a competitor website, just searching the bravo it came on Google had it come up. Won't last long. I picked one up earlier in the week from a diff website, so they are all restocking right now
 
I downloaded the freeware H135 helicopter yesterday and gave it a quick spin (no pun intended).
As it's free, it's a bit hard to complain. Having said that, the flight model is clearly mega simplistic, with no torque effect. Didn't tree to see if I could induce VRS. The interior is "ok". Certainly not as polished as some of the stock aircraft.
Xplane and DCS clearly don't need to worry just yet.

What I couldn't help but notice was just what a mess low level textures are. I overflew a car-park and all the cars and buildings looked like they'd been melted by a ray gun.
Is there anything expected on the horizon that might fix that?
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
What I couldn't help but notice was just what a mess low level textures are. I overflew a car-park and all the cars and buildings looked like they'd been melted by a ray gun.
Is there anything expected on the horizon that might fix that?
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Probably unlikely; some areas have better photogrammetry and graphics than others; I'm sure we'll see more optimisation of their engine and how it interprets the map data but I wouldn't expect anything soon.
For anything you really want detailed scenery for either buy it (if available) or look for free add-ons.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
I downloaded the freeware H135 helicopter yesterday and gave it a quick spin (no pun intended).
As it's free, it's a bit hard to complain. Having said that, the flight model is clearly mega simplistic, with no torque effect. Didn't tree to see if I could induce VRS. The interior is "ok". Certainly not as polished as some of the stock aircraft.
Xplane and DCS clearly don't need to worry just yet.

What I couldn't help but notice was just what a mess low level textures are. I overflew a car-park and all the cars and buildings looked like they'd been melted by a ray gun.
Is there anything expected on the horizon that might fix that?
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No helo and no supersonic flight models are the two main reasons why I haven't bought this, and I've owned nigh on every MSFS since 5.0. Another reason, like you alluded to, is the crappy scenery/textures. I like flying helos down low, NoE at times, and the rubbish scenery/textures just ruin the whole experience.
 
Don't really understand how anyone could think the scenery/textures in MSFS are rubbish.....they're a completely different level of fidelity than any microsoft sim before and better than even ortho4xp in most circumstances. The autogenerated scenery is unlike anything else before and honestly incredible down low.

The 'photogrammetry' on the other hand, is pretty rubbish. Of course there aren't that many photogrammetry cities, you don't actually have to have it turned on and most likely you can use the SDK and a freeware tool to import the google version, which is much better. Lots of people still seem to get the the bing satellite imagery and photogrammetry buildings mixed up.
 
chrismscotland said:
Has anyone got the Airbus Officers pack? (Stick & Throttle)? Looking for some feedback on it.
I'm looking to downsize from the Warthog HOTAS/Stick I've got as it just takes up so much room on the desk and the Airbus looks a smaller more compact unit; but it is any good?
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I would stick with the Warthog, tbh. Cool having a scaled down replica of the airbus controls, if that's what you fly, but the quality isn't compatible. I'm on my third replacement quadrant inside a year and the joystick is starting to wear now too. Have ordered an airbus grip for the warthog.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
I downloaded the freeware H135 helicopter yesterday and gave it a quick spin (no pun intended).
As it's free, it's a bit hard to complain. Having said that, the flight model is clearly mega simplistic, with no torque effect. Didn't tree to see if I could induce VRS. The interior is "ok". Certainly not as polished as some of the stock aircraft.
Xplane and DCS clearly don't need to worry just yet.

What I couldn't help but notice was just what a mess low level textures are. I overflew a car-park and all the cars and buildings looked like they'd been melted by a ray gun.
Is there anything expected on the horizon that might fix that?
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There's definitely torque, you didn't have the flight model on simple (xbox) did you? You will want L3: Advanced. You can change it on the flip out tablet on the side... the level 1 model is made to make it easy to just pootle around with an xbox controller, and I wouldn't bother with intermediate, just go straight to advanced.

It is a bit of a low fidelity interior, but as you say can't really complain when it's free... I believe they have mostly moved on to their payware H145 which will no doubt see more polish, not sure if we will see any major further improvements to the H135.

I think there is currently some bug with texture streaming.[KNOWN ISSUE] Bing data streaming - Community / News and Announcements - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums
 
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Thanks for that. I fly pretty much all the time in VR, and as the in-cockpit zoom doesn't seem to work with the H135, I'd missed the "advanced" flight model.
As you say, that made a huge difference. It's still rather synthetic, as though it's got a lot of fly by wire in the loop. All the same, it does feel MUCH better.

I tried inducing VRS, but couldn't manage that. Hopefully to be added later.

Whilst I've been somewhat critical, the key point is that I still enjoyed flying it (choppers are what got me started in DCS), and as it's free, it really is an utter no-brainer
I can see the H135 being my normal "go to" with FS for the immediate future.
 
Outside of RC I've never flown helicopters (well apart from a half hour trial lesson in an R44 my wife bought me a few years ago!), so I'm not exactly an authority but the H135 did strike me as quite easy to fly.... that said, it is an Airbus heli, and they are known for making "robotic" type aircraft and I'm no expert in the systems on their helicopters.

VRS definitely appears to register, it creates a stall event in the sim which plays through my shakers... Doesn't have a huge effect on the heli from what I've seen other than needing a bit more power but the 135 again is pretty overpowered at low alts so not sure how susceptible it is to it in reality either...

The Fly Inside bell is supposed to be a pretty damn good flight model, and of course no modern technology in the control loop, but I haven't tried it yet.
 
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Outside of RC I've never flown helicopters (well apart from a half hour trial lesson in an R44 my wife bought me a few years ago!), so I'm not exactly an authority but the H135 did strike me as quite easy to fly.... that said, it is an Airbus heli, and they are known for making "robotic" type aircraft and I'm no expert in the systems on their helicopters.

VRS definitely appears to register, it creates a stall event in the sim which plays through my shakers... Doesn't have a huge effect on the heli from what I've seen other than needing a bit more power but the 135 again is pretty overpowered at low alts so not sure how susceptible it is to it in reality either...

The Fly Inside bell is supposed to be a pretty damn good flight model, and of course no modern technology in the control loop, but I haven't tried it yet.
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Thanks again for that.
I took a scan at the info on the Bell last night. I'd rather have something a little newer, so will wait to see if we get a Huey, 412 or similar.
Not sure on the VRS in the H135. In DCS, VRS is massively more pronounced in their helicopters. So I don't know if that's a limitation with the flight model of the H135, or if it has a LOT better power to weight ratio (possible).
 
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Microsoft Flight Simulator – Austria, Germany, Switzerland World Update Trailer
Our vision is to continuously improve and expand Microsoft Flight Simulator on a regular basis.

This month, the virtual world of Microsoft Flight Simulator is getting its next major update by focusing on the marvelous regions of Austria, Germany & Switzerland. Renowned for its glorious mountain ranges, ubiquitous castles and stunning vistas, this region comes to life with World Update VI.

Our latest World Update contains new aerial imagery, high-resolution elevation maps and several brand-new 3D cities in Germany, Basel in Switzerland, Graz and Vienna in Austria. The update drastically enhances the visuals of these three countries and the beautiful mountain-ranges of the Alps.

The team has also hand-crafted over 100 well-known locations (points of interest, or POIs) and several airports including Lübeck, Stuttgart, Klagenfurt and St. Gallen. The update also includes new discovery flights, landing challenges and bush trips that take simmers across this beautiful region of our planet.

World Update VI: Austria, Germany and Switzerland is available free to all Microsoft Flight Simulator users today. Be sure your simulator is up to date first, then visit the Marketplace to download the latest world update and immerse yourself in this magnificent and expansive corner of the world. The sky is calling!

Download Instructions
  1. For PC users: Some packages in your community folder may not have been updated and, as a result, may have an unexpected impact on the title’s performance and behavior. Please move your community package(s) to another folder before relaunching the title if you suffer from stability issues or long loading times.
  2. Open the Microsoft Store, Steam, or Xbox application (whichever you use to play the sim) check for updates to Microsoft Flight Simulator. Install the update. Click here 89 for a more in-depth guide for PC users.
  3. Launch Microsoft Flight Simulator and install the in-game content update.
  4. Once in the sim, head to the Marketplace and download the free content update labeled World Update 6.



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Release Notes 1.19.8.0
Stability

  • Several crashes have been fixed across the title
  • Applying the default profile for the Mouse will no longer crash the title when an custom profile was loaded on PC
  • Fixed crash in autosave in bushtrip missions when the user has a non-ASCII name
  • The title can now be launched in Safe mode 13 via a pop-up to deactivate all Community and Marketplace content on PC only. The option will be available after a crash as long as Devmode is not enabled.
  • Fixed some scenarios where mandatory content was not downloaded or installed properly on PC if it had been deleted via the content manager (“You are missing packages that are essential to run Microsoft Flight Simulator. Please update the application and try again.”)
Navigation

  • Fixed ATC radar altitude so the ATC no longer asks you to change your altitude when it is not applicable
  • The VFR Map now displays information for latitudes beyond 75 degrees
  • New AIRAC cycle 2108 is now available
Planes

  • SR22 performance and fuel consumption has been modified to better match POH
  • Gyro Drift is now correctly set when Aircraft Systems assistance preset is set to Easy / Medium / Hard
Peripherals

  • Fixed the ENG 1 and the Crank/ Mode norm/ IGN/Start buttons on the Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant Airbus edition
World

  • Updated elevation data for Germany, Austria & Switzerland
  • Updated aerial imagery for Germany, Austria & Switzerland
  • "Offscreen terrain pre caching " graphics settings has been added (Low, Medium, High and Ultra). If set to Ultra, all the offscreen terrain will be cached at full quality which will reduce FPS drops and LOD popping when panning the camera but may impact overall performance
  • Maximum photogrammetry draw distance has been further increased. As a result photogrammetry downtown building areas will be visible from farther away
  • Better management of low bandwidth Bing terrain data and photogrammetry streaming as the change to Offline data is no longer persistent (changes applied only affect the current flight)
  • Fixed an issue where the Bing terrain data would switch to offline in low bandwidth scenarios without displaying a warning pop-up, when data consumption cap was set (the warning pop up is now displayed properly)
  • Cities at night are now more visible on the World Map
  • Various airport data fixes
    • LEMD: added Restriction for landings and take-offs on runways according to charts
    • LEMI: fixed ICAO issue for Region de Murcia International Airport
    • OPIS: Islamabad airport now has lights
    • 02NH: fixed Iroquois landing altitude
    • EGGK: fixed issue with a building in the middle of a taxiway
    • EDDF: added Restriction for landings and take-offs on runways according to charts
    • KGTU: added missing buildings
    • FNDB: fixed Terraforming and data issues
    • 89AK: fixed elevation issue
    • KDVT: fixed parking 75 spawning point
    • ESKS: updated ICAO for Scandinavian Mountains Airport
    • SSGG: updated ICAO for Tancredo Thomas de Faria Airport (Guarapuava Airport)
  • Improved Airport data on 100 airports
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EDDM EDLP EDDT EDDH EDDL LOWW EDDK EDDB LOWS EDDV
EDDP EDHI LOWZ EDNY EDXW LOWG LOIR EDDC EDLW LSZB
EDNX EDFE EDLE EDDG EDFM EDHK LOWK EDMO EDSB EDXH
LOWL EDFH LSMP EDMA EDLN EDKB EDFZ EDVE EDVK EDHL
EDWR EDDE LSME EDJA EDRK LSTA LSPM EDCG LOXT EDWG
EDWY EDLR LSZE LOIJ LOIH EDRY LSMF LOAV EDDR EDLV
EDGS LOAN LSPV EDAZ EDTF EDRE EDLT EDWI EDAH EDKA
EDLD EDBM EDCP EDWJ EDTL EDTQ EDRV EDWL EDLM EDML
EDOP EDQD EDRZ ETHB LSGG LSGS LSZR LSZA LSZS LSC
LSZL LSGL LSMM LSZF LSZG LSMA LSZN LSZK EDVM EDTY
  • Addition of 43 new airports:
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EDAX EDAY EDBN EDEM EDER EDFJ EDGT EDOV EDUT EDXN
EDXQ ETHC ETHE ETHF ETHR ETHS ETMN ETND ETNH ETNJ
ETNL ETNN ETNS ETNT ETSB ETSE ETSH ETSI ETSN LOGK
LSGC LSMC EDHR EDII EDKC EDKQ EDKY EDPR EDTI EDUQ
EDUU EDVB LOSM
VR

  • The title no longer crashes when quitting the sim in VR
  • Various tutorial fixes: briefs and debriefs are properly displayed, no blockers anymore. Please note that Tutorial 1 in VR mode is still under work and will be complete in a future update
Marketplace

  • Content User Rating is now more accurate
SDK

  • Fixed group displaying and collapse/uncollapse issue in the scenery editor
  • Projected Mesh not rendered when moving camera or adding new one in the Scenery editor (we force the loading of LOD 0)
  • Improved some text rendering for XML gauges
  • Plane debug screens now correctly calculate and display GPH/gallon per hour fuel consumptions (DebugAircraftEngines & DebugAircraftTracking)
  • Aircraft Editor: the .cfg files are no longer corrupted when using the editor
Optional World Update Content (via the In-Sim Marketplace)
Germany
Photogrammetry Cities:

  • Bielefeld
  • Braunschweig
  • Frankfurt am Main
  • Konstanz
  • Wuppertal
Hand-Crafted Airports

  • EDHL – Lübeck Airport
  • EDDS – Stuttgart Airport
Hand-Crafted Points of Interest

  • Helgioland
  • Elbphilarmonie (Hamburg)
  • Volksparkstadion (Hamburg)
  • Holsten Gate (Lübeck)
  • Fehmarn Sound Bridge
  • Schwerin Castle (Schwerin)
  • St. Nicholas Church (Wismar)
  • Freilichtmuseum Gross Raden
  • St. Nicholas Church (Stralsund)
  • St. Mary’s Church (Stralsund)
  • Jasmund National Park (Rügen)
  • Rheinsberg Palace
  • Brandenburg Gate (Berlin)
  • Olympiastadion (Berlin)
  • Sanssouci and Park (Potsdam)
  • Tropical Islands Resort
  • Bastei
  • Moritzburg
  • Frauenkirche (Dresden)
  • Kath. Hofkirche (Dresden)
  • Monument to the Battle of the Nations (Leipzig)
  • Wartburg (Eisenach)
  • Kyffhäuser Monument
  • State Museum of Pre-History (Halle)
  • Wernigerode Castle
  • Madgeburg Catherdal (Magdeburg)
  • Grüne Zitadelle (Magdeburg)
  • Autostadt (Wolfsburg)
  • Herrenhausen Gardens (Herrenhausen)
  • Marienburg Castle
  • Hermannsdenkmal (Detmold)
  • Münster Cathedral (Münster)
  • Signal Iduna Park (Dortmund)
  • Veltins-Arena (Gelsenkirchen)
  • Zollverein Coal Mine Industrial Complex (Essen)
  • Merkur Spiel-Arena (Düsseldorf)
  • Borussia-Park (Mönchengladbach)
  • Great St. Martin’s Church (Cologne)
  • South Bridge (Cologne)
  • Hohenzollern Bridge (Cologne)
  • RheinEnergieStadion (Cologne)
  • Aachener Cathedral (Aachen)
  • Drachenfels Castle
  • Drachenburg Castle (Königswinter)
  • Deutsches Eck (Koblenz)
  • Cochem Impreial Castle (Cochem)
  • Castle Katz (St. Goarshausen)
  • Niederwalddenkmal
  • Frankfurt Cathedral (Frankfurt am Main)
  • Oper Frankfurt (Frankfurt am Main)
  • Deutsche Bank Park (Frankfurt am Main)
  • Saar Polygon (Ensdorf)
  • Mannheim Water Town (Mannheim)
  • Freiburg Minster (Freiburg)
  • Hohenzollern Castle (Hechingen)
  • Mercedes-Benz Arena (Stuttgart)
  • Walhalla
  • Allianz Arena (Munich)
  • Olympiastadion (Munich)
  • St. Bartholomew’s Church (Berchtesgaden)
Bush Trip

  • Bush Trip Germany
Landing Challenges

  • EDDL Dusseldorf
  • EDXH Duene
Discovery Flight

  • Berlin
Austria
Photogrammetry Cities:

  • Graz
  • Vienna
Hand-Crafted Airports

  • LOWK – Klagenfurt Airport
Hand-Crafted Points of Interest

  • Melk Abbey (Melk)
  • Wiener Riesenrad (Vienna)
  • Hofsburg (Vienna)
  • St. Stephan’s Cathedral (Vienna)
  • Schönbrunn Palace & Gloriette (Vienna)
  • Ernst-Happel-Stadion (Vienna)
  • Eggenberg Palace (Graz)
  • Wörthersee Stadion (Klagenfurt)
  • Hohenwerfen Castle
  • Kufstein Fortress
Bush Trip

  • Bush Trip Austria
Landing Challenge

  • LOWK Klagenfurt
Switzerland
Photogrammetry Cities:

  • Basel
Hand-Crafted Airports

  • LSZR – St. Gallen-Altenrhein Airport
Hand-Crafted Points of Interest

  • Tarasp Castle
  • Landwasser Viaduct
  • Castelgrande
  • Castello di Montebello
  • Castello di Sasso Corbaro
  • Abbey of Saint Gall (St. Gallen)
  • Kybunpark (St. Gallen)
  • Einsiedeln Abbey (Einsiedeln)
  • Grossmünster (Zurich)
  • Swiss National Museum (Zurich)
  • Letzigrund (Zurich)
  • St. Jakob Park (Basel)
  • Kapellbrücke (Lucerne)
  • Swissporarena (Lucerne)
  • Zentrum Paul Klee (Bern)
  • Stadion Wankdorf (Bern)
  • Bern Minster (Bern)
  • Federal Palace of Switzerland (Bern)
  • Stade de la Maladière (Neuchatel)
  • Lausanne Cathedral (Lausanne)
  • Brunswick Monument (Geneva)
  • Batiment des Forces Motrices (Geneva)
  • Stade de Geneve (Geneva)
  • Chillon Castle (Lake Geneva)
  • Gornergrat South Observatory
  • Sphinx Observatory
Bush Trip

  • Bush Trip Swiss
  • Bush Trip Grand Alpine Challenge (Cross Country)
Landing Challenges

  • LSZA Lugano
  • LSZR ST Gallen
Discovery Flight

  • Pennine
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    Offscreen Terrain Pre-Caching
    “Offscreen terrain caching” is now available on PC. This option defines what level of detail your offscreen terrain will stream into memory. This is located in General Options > Graphics.

    The definition of “Off screen terrain” is anything not currently visible behind the user.

    Question from the community: “If set to Ultra, all the offscreen terrain will be cached at full quality - does this include buildings and trees in addition to ground terrain?” Yes, this includes not only terrain but buildings, trees, photogrammetry, textures, and everything else in the world.

    It will have four settings:
    • Low - This setting will improve performance but a lot of terrain data is streamed at a lower quality behind the user, while FPS drops may increase when turning your head.
    • Medium - This is what you currently have right now in the current build. The terrain behind the user is streamed at a lower quality and reduces the impact on memory and FPS, but when turning your head will need to stream the terrain and FPS drops may occur in that moment.
    • High - High will be an intermediate state between Medium and Ultra
    • Ultra - This is will have no offscreen caching at all, and everything will be maxed out based on your graphics setting. The quality in front of the user is the same as from behind the user, so nothing needs to be loaded. This could come with some FPS drops when turning the head, but would result in higher FPS and lower memory usage when looking forward and not turning your head quickly.



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    Release Note Details
    • SR22 performance and fuel consumption has been modified to better match POH: SR22 was flying 4% too slow (max speed 2000ft) and had a 10% too low fuel consumption.

    • Better management of low bandwidth Bing terrain data and photogrammetry streaming as the change to Offline data is no longer persistent (changes applied only affect the current flight): In a low bandwidth scenario, a pop-up is displayed informing the user that they should turn off Bing terrain data and photogrammetry. Turning it off at this moment was a persistent change which lead to some users playing in offline mode without knowing it. The switch to offline data is no longer persistent starting with this update.

    • Content user rating is now more accurate: A bug was found that did not register every rating and capped at a certain amount. This is now fixed and all ratings from users will be accounted for.
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