**** Official Microsoft Flight Simulator Thread ****

I think he was replying your complaint that it's bad of MS not to give alpha testers discounts rather than disputing the price you paid on CDkeys.

I would have to agree, I don't feel I should be entitled to any discount for being an alpha tester. The reward is getting to play around in the sim early (for free!) and indeed ahead of the vast majority of everyone else, many of whom would've loved the chance!

If MS had demanded that you must fly specific profiles, do X number of tests and hours per week, file X number of bug reports etc etc to be part of the alpha then yes perhaps it would have been appropriate to reward the testers. As it is they basically say go have fun and stress the system, contribute bug reports and feedback as/when you feel like it and I've been enjoying doing just that.
 
A token 5% off would have been nice, it's what I was waiting for anyway, this reminds me that I still haven't bought cyberpunk 77 yet :-¦
 
I do this with sim racing but it's easy comparison to make with flying as well. £1000 odd on sim equipment/software etc. vs £100,000 on owning an actual plane/racing. Easy to justify then. :p
do you remember when I bought my current car honey? I haggled the guy down by 1k so these pc upgrades are basically free :D
 
I think he was replying your complaint that it's bad of MS not to give alpha testers discounts rather than disputing the price you paid on CDkeys.

I would have to agree, I don't feel I should be entitled to any discount for being an alpha tester. The reward is getting to play around in the sim early (for free!) and indeed ahead of the vast majority of everyone else, many of whom would've loved the chance!

If MS had demanded that you must fly specific profiles, do X number of tests and hours per week, file X number of bug reports etc etc to be part of the alpha then yes perhaps it would have been appropriate to reward the testers. As it is they basically say go have fun and stress the system, contribute bug reports and feedback as/when you feel like it and I've been enjoying doing just that.

Indeed.

Has any game given cheap offers for alpha testers? I can't think of any off hand.
 
Hi guys....

What kind of Computer would you recommend for running Flight Simulator 2020 smoothly?

I'd need an entirely new rig really... Motherboard, CPU, RAM and Graphics Card.
 
Hi guys....

What kind of Computer would you recommend for running Flight Simulator 2020 smoothly?

I'd need an entirely new rig really... Motherboard, CPU, RAM and Graphics Card.

That massively depends on your budget. But for a good experience I would be looking at a Ryzen 3600, 5600XT/RTX2060 and 16GB (but ideally 32GB) RAM.
 
That massively depends on your budget. But for a good experience I would be looking at a Ryzen 3600, 5600XT/RTX2060 and 16GB (but ideally 32GB) RAM.

AMD better than Intel for Gaming these days ?

I just specced up a few components ...

Geforce RTX 2070 8GB
Ryzen 5 3600
Asus Rog Strix B450-E ATX Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB RAM

All around £850 ... The Motherboard, RAM and CPU are quite nicely priced, all about £150 each, it's the Graphics Cards which are expensive. I would need a new PSU as well as I don't think my 10 year old Corsair 500W would suffice but I'm not factoring that in.
 
I can't find a Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X anywhere but can find the 2700X without the Pro, are they the same chip or something?
 
AMD better than Intel for Gaming these days ?

I just specced up a few components ...

Geforce RTX 2070 8GB
Ryzen 5 3600
Asus Rog Strix B450-E ATX Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB RAM

All around £850 ... The Motherboard, RAM and CPU are quite nicely priced, all about £150 each, it's the Graphics Cards which are expensive. I would need a new PSU as well as I don't think my 10 year old Corsair 500W would suffice but I'm not factoring that in.

AMD better, no, is the short answer. But you get a lot more value for money. And we're talking 5-10% behind Intel in the top end of gaming benchmarks on 1080p.

A spec like that would be just fine though.

I can't find a Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X anywhere but can find the 2700X without the Pro, are they the same chip or something?

Ryzen Pro is the business type CPU's the same as Intel's vPro, so no need to look for a Pro CPU.
 
AMD better, no, is the short answer. But you get a lot more value for money. And we're talking 5-10% behind Intel in the top end of gaming benchmarks on 1080p.

A spec like that would be just fine though.



Ryzen Pro is the business type CPU's the same as Intel's vPro, so no need to look for a Pro CPU.

Thanks. So the ideal spec is a £200 AMD CPU and not one of the more expensive £400 AMD CPUs... ? That's good if so.
 
Thanks. So the ideal spec is a £200 AMD CPU and not one of the more expensive £400 AMD CPUs... ? That's good if so.
No - The ideal spec as specified by Microsoft is an 8 core 16 thread CPU such as the AMD 3700X or Intel 9800X. The AMD 3600X is a 6 core 12 thread CPU and whilst being a very good gaming CPU it does not have the core / thread count that Microsoft specify as being "ideal".
 
No - The ideal spec as specified by Microsoft is an 8 core 16 thread CPU such as the AMD 3700X or Intel 9800X. The AMD 3600X is a 6 core 12 thread CPU and whilst being a very good gaming CPU it does not have the core / thread count that Microsoft specify as being "ideal".

I was talking about the Ryzen 7 2700X which is an 8 core, 16 thread CPU, which is a £200 CPU.
 
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Could you elaborate please? I'm confused why they'd put a 2700X as ideal spec if it isn't.

Exactly : the ideal published spec is:

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"Ideal system requirements
Do you want to get the most out of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 and would you like to be stunned by all details this new Flightsim has to offer, including its breathtaking sceneries? Then you do need a heavy PC, including fast internet connection.

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 2700X, or Intel i7-9800X
  • GPU: Radeon VII, or Nvidia RTX 2080
  • VRAM: 8 GB
  • RAM: 32 GB
  • HDD: 150 GB SSD
  • Internetspeed: 50 Mbps (6.3 MB/s)"
https://www.flightsimwebshop.com/en/blogs/content/system-specs-flight-simulator-2020-published/
 
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So what are peoples thoughts on upgrading from gen 4 intel [4770k], I am thinking about upgrading to a 10700K or 10900K.

Any thoughts on speed of memory, although its clear 32GB is a must.
 
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